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[–] [email protected] 234 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Eh, they can't be honest about wanting you to use the app to be able to collect your data better.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 2 years ago (1 children)

My favorite non sense is with Reddit, if I browse an NSFW page in incognito on mobile, a popup appears : browse anonymously download the app. Right

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

old.reddit to browse NSFW pages.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago

To be fair, they didn't say who it was better for.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I just went thru this w/ Progressive. They basically demanded that I install the app to make a claim. I have a DOD phone and I can't install anything on it. Whats a shit show...

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

McDonald's: Are you using our app today?

Me: Why the fuck would I do that???

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Because they charge you 50% more if you don't use their app.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (9 children)

Which means the extra data they can grab via their mobile app is worth at least that much to them, if not more.

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[–] [email protected] 159 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Can't collect as much data on web platform due to all those pesky ad blockers...

But as a mobile app:

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 years ago

Which is exactly why Reddit went after alternate clients and their mobile website is so crippled. They need to sell that sweet sweet user metadata to advertisers

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I would get slapped with a restraining order for stalking if I'd do this IRL. But companies successfully convinced themselves that targetted ads are effective, completely ignoring the reality that everybody is just fed up by them. Browsing the web without an adblocker is atrocious and it feels like they are trying to bully you into buying their nonsense.

I think that all started in the 90s when the focus on brand recognition was insane and actually resonated with society for reasons unbeknownst to me. The shit that's happening now is just the resulting endgame. We 90s kids really fucked up, I'm sorry.

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[–] [email protected] 114 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Psst, that's web 2.0. Web 3.0 is stuff like Mastodon, Lemmy, IPFS, cryptocurrencies (unfortunately), Kbin…

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (5 children)

this is web 3.0? looks more like web 1.0. not that i'm complaining, i like it

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 years ago (6 children)

Can't serve as many ads on the website because of ad blockers tho.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Apps also provide the developer with way more data collection as websites only get a sliver of access that apps get. Mostly, LI wants your contacts.

There’s a reason we have an ongoing class action suit stretching back decades against LI and their invasive practices.

They have always been one of the worst social media companies probably scummier than Fb.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

What would you expect out of "suck off capitalist daddies to hopefully get a job" the social media company?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Can't track your location and other things you do, too

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 years ago

LinkedIn. Where you can read endless and meaningless hubris from managers who used to abuse you.

I did see a former co-worker post a hilarious meme though.

"Nobody wants to work anymore."

"Wrong. Nobody wants to work for YOU."

[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 years ago (11 children)

"We can datamine you better on the app"

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

They can harvest more personal data with an app, why would they improve the website.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's a lie anyway, LinkedIn isn't better on the app. Nothing can make it better, it's just shit.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago

I despise that messaging on sites.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

More websites should take example from Stack Exchange. A while ago I was wondering where their app had gone, turns out they unpublished it so that people only use the mobile site (which works pretty well).

If I want to visit 10 different sites, I shouldn't have to install 10 different apps (of which many are just webview wrappers anyway).

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For God's sake? God isn't on LinkedIn.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Shitty CV. What has he done recently?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

LinkedIn have been doing this shit for years. I'd load their site through Firefox for Android and see this stuff constantly. I raised an issue several years ago suggesting that they should at least use a cookie to suppress the nagging and a tech sympathized with me but clearly nothing was done.

Because the bottom line is they want people using the app. Not because the experience is better for me, but because it's better for them - they can scrape contacts, track activity, push notifications and generally just do abusive shit that a website can't. Everyone who checks into this site once a week or less often should just delete the BS app and load the site from time to time. The whole service is just a meat market anyway so there is no reason to make things even worse.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Before any of the usual suspects comes in to defend LinkedIn for "trying to make money", have you tried publishing a job offering on LinkedIn? If you haven't, shut up, they're already making cash. If you have, my brother in Christ, you think they need MORE???

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

"we can track you better on the app"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

thanks for reminding me to delete the app

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The lemmy app voyager (wefwef) proves this id a lie. That webapp could have fooled me it was a native app.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If anything it's (cr)app... the worst of all apps I've installed. It's laggy as hell.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Never used LinkedIn. I used to tutor kids and one parent tried to connect with me on the site. Since I didn't have an account, LinkedIn sent an email alerting me that someone was trying to connect with me. The amount of emails I got from LinkedIn was insane. Multiple emails every day for weeks. I couldn't unsubscribe bc I didn't have an account. Reporting it as spam didn't help either. I finally had to go into the site, create an account, set all the settings to never contact me, and then promptly deleted the account. Hadn't received an email from then since.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Many comments go on how data collection is so bad in many if not all mobile phone apps. My take is to treat the phone as that, a persona that's being spied upon. Then I have my Linux computer where I may do more private stuff. Of course, this is no silver bullet. It's just my current state of mind. At some point I might switch to a Linux phone, but I kind of need WhatsApp (lived without it a year or so, lost contact with many people)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Just because my only source of water isn't entirely clean doesn't mean I should mix it with arsenic.

Yes, so much of our personal data is leeched from our phones, doesn't mean we should except it and willingly open a vein.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Websites are an already dying medium, most interactions on Meta's services happen on smarphones, reddit is nudging its users to download the App. and most dating websites have died while Apps developped by refuse to offer a web version.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

No no, they want your data, it's easier with the app

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