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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I mean, what were the middle parts of Italy and Germany before? Wouldn’t those technically be countries that don’t exist anymore as well?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah the Holy Roman Empire was quite the clusterfuck, fun to learn about though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

talk amongst yourselves

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Confirmed by the pope, at least at the beginning, which for Christians at the time was as holy as it could get. At the start, it controlled Rome and was actively trying to copy certain Roman motifs. Even at the start it had multiple different language groups, If the Austro-Hungarians had an empire, then so did the Holy-Romans.

Voltaire was really just being a sassy bitch. /s

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Holy Christ on the bloody cross

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Now I got flashbacks from Advanced European History. Been 35+ years and you hit me with this. I won't be able to sleep tonight.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Bishopric of

Muenster

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

That link won't load for me :(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Confirmed by the pope, at least at the beginning, which for Christians at the time was as holy as it could get. At the start, it controlled Rome and was actively trying to copy certain Roman motifs. Even at the start it had multiple different language groups, If the Austro-Hungarians had an empire, then so did the Holy-Romans.

Voltaire was really just being a sassy bitch. /s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

What about the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland ?

Or the multiple Kingdoms which existed on both islands 1,000 + years ago ?

Historically just about the oldest recognisable country in Europe is France and even it's borders have shifted on multiple occasions.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

When I was a kid, Yugoslavia was a country.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I used to work with a guy who was very insistent that he was Czechoslovak.

Not Czech nor Slovak but Czechoslovak !

Seemingly his Mother was one and his Father the other and he took great pride in his hybrid identity and allegiance to a country which no longer exists.

Probably loads of folk like that in the former Yugoslavia and USSR as well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

I can't believe this map includes Castile, but does not make any mention of Al-Andalus. That's one of the most interesting epochs of Iberian history!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

A lot of these still exist in spirit. Catalonia, Basque Country, etc.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Isn't showing up in full, just as a thumbnail for some reason.

image link

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Always fascinating that one of the longest existing countries was venice (and a republic at that, I think it's the longest existing republic) ... Over a thousand years! That's longer than the Roman empire (stfu no one thinks that the eastern Roman empire is the Roman empire :D) . And certainly longer that the 1000 year Reich

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wikipedia: it was.

Also, it absolutely was. Sure it was nominally a union of federal republics, but they had very little autonomy from Moscow. If you're going to argue that made the republics independent states, you might as well argue that present day states in Germany or the US are independent countries. They have more autonomy than the Soviet republics had.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Put it in H!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Fascinating I never knew Venice included that part of Greece.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Prussia existed as a duchy before 1701 and was still a sovereign state until 1934, and wasn’t officially abolished until after World War II.

Need to be more specific about this.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

A lot of these still exist in spirit. Catalonia, Basque Country, etc.