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[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Just to give things some scale, the longest book series in WH 40k is the hours heresy. It's 60+ books. And that takes place in the 30th millennium, so it's just background to current times lore.

There are more than 300 novels to read, and that's just counting novels. There are also codexes (codecies?), other supplementary books, other game books (like dark heresy), and the many issues of the white dwarf magazine.

How absurd must Kirby lore be then?

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To give you a hint, Kirby is actually an eldrich god.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's it. That's the lore. That's how much people like to hype up kirby lore despite it being a big ol nothingburger. That's why he's just so upset about all that hype and then... the big reveal. Kirby eat things.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's also the fact that there are other potential incarnations of Kirby also wandering around the universe, except they're evil. Also they seem to be able to kill omnipotent gods somehow. And potentially create them too. I think there was also something about Nova or whatever his name was being made by the same species Kirby is?
Which, because they're all dead except Kirby and Metaknight implied that there's something capable of killing them, too, that we've never seen.

Also Kirby probably never killed 0. It would seem he can't die in fact. And he seems to be what happens when Kirby reincarnates as evil instead of good.
The final boss of Kirby Squeak Squad is implied to be an incarnation of 0. In Japan his name is even "Dark 0."

Kirby lore is basically "Lovecraft for Kids" if you ask me. Way simpler than traditional cosmic horror, but it has the same elements.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In the last game, Forgotten Land, Kirby fights against a god level dimension warping motherfucker who corrupted all the animals and steals souls for power. After being Kirb stomped, Fecto Elfilis creates a pocket dimension to escape to that contains all the souls and warped versions of the bosses. A pivotal part of the end boss build up is a wall of flesh/psychic material chases after you, the goopy mass swarming with the faces of those it's consumed.

This isnt even lore yet - it's gameplay. Kirby is also haunted by Meta Knight, space wizards from other dimensions, and so much more. It isn't hype to just talk about what's happening in the game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So Meta Knight and such are the good guys? (Serious question)

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago

It's less about length and more about absurdity and power levels. As a rough translation, imagine if everything ever done by chaos was defeated by a single entity that ate them. That's basically how Kirby lore works.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Codices. One of those times the apparent rule works out.

index -> indices, codex -> codices

As far as "information to fill your head with" goes, this is, of course, minor.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah autocorrect was fucking with me, it didn't like codices (but I spell like shit)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

It drives me absolutely nuts when spellcheck refuses to recognize a word. You have one job!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Are the novels good? I'm not interested in any of the tabletop stuff but I'd love to have a shitload of books to read.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think some of them are pretty good! My favorites are the Ciaphas Cain series and Eisenhorn series. Gaunts Ghosts is also good if you want a more serious military read. If you want non-humans, check out "The Infinite and the Divine". It's about necrons (highly advanced ancient space robots/terminators).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I think it's worth getting into, but you will quickly find authors you like and ones you dislike. I think the worst part of reading 40k is that you'll find a book you like, but it isn't a part of a larger series. For example hellsreach, or rin's world.

Maybe watch some YouTube videos about the setting first to see what interests you about the lore, and then start with books about that.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How many hours were the heresy? ;P

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Kirby porn?

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago (4 children)

KIRBY IS A GOD UNIRONICALY AND HAS KILLED MULTIPLE GODS BOTH INTENTIONALLY AND UNITENTIONALLY, OFTEN OVER FOOD.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

YOU KILLED THE GOD OF KNOWLEDGE OVER A CAKE AND THEN LET A FUCKING GREMLIN GET THE POWER AND SHROWED THE WORLD IN DARKNESS. YES I BLAME YOU.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you did this with the doctor who wiki you'd probably be clinically insane.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

That's basically what happened to Donna

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I don't get the Kirby lore reference at all. Is it actually that deep?

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The games aren’t deep per se, but they just get a little tonally weird towards the end given the franchise’s cute presentation. You go from fighting a tree who won’t stop disrupting forest creatures to battling an unknowable alien incarnation of darkness who wants to take over all of reality. The series has a lot of, “Oh no, our friend’s been possessed by a manifestation of pure evil!” plots.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kirby may or may not be an eldritch god that feasts on the souls of other eldritch gods.

He eats a child at one point.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

An eldritch god birthed into existence as a counterweight to the overwhelming darkness of the universe, a force of nature, regardless of intent (I think, it's been years since I took that plunge)

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You boyz need to brush up on Ork philozophy. Whatever I do, I try to be at least zome bit Brutal an orz Kunnin.

Only den will a be Right an Proppa.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It’s endlessly funny to me that Orks are among the most brutal, caste-system based, martial strength = legitimate authority, but they are powered by feels.

A Eldar or Guardsman would look at a typical Shoota or Mek built by Orks see a series of parts assembled to a facsimile of the intended device - but it is the Ork’s belief that it will work, that makes it work. In a future where the Imperium will invade whole systems over rumors of ancient human technology that is superior to their creations, Orks pop up from spores and can bullshit themselves to overcome physical laws.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yep, as a fictional concept they are fascinating. They're less of a nation or a race, but more like an invading self contained ecosystem that makes supply lines obsolete. Their technology is so ridiculous that it's almost useless in other species hands, but they can pillage their enemies weapons to their own advantage. Their entire species social class structure is based on merit, biggest ork is DA BOSS, because it's biologically baked into them.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And if a small Ork becomes Boss, he will get bigger until he's the biggest... Because they all believe he's supposed to, so he does.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

“Oh fuck, you’re gonna make me WAAAGH”

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They're like lobsters they never stop growing, more they fight bigger they get. It's part of their life cycle, it's like sleep for us.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

REAL ORKZ BE KUNNIN AN BRUTAL NOT BRUTAL AN KUNNIN

DIS POST WUZ MADE BY DA MORK BALEEVAS

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

OI I KNOWZ DAT!! I IZ A BADMOON OLDHEAD, BUTZ I GOTZ TO DUM IT DOWN FOR DEEZ HUMMIEZ! DEY NOT READY FOR "DAKKA IZ AZ DAKKA DOZ" OR ANY'TING BOSS GHAZGHKULL IZ YELLINZ ABOUT!!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Am I the only one that spent the day reading kirby lore and found it plain? It's probably me.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

It is plain tbh. What makes it feel interesting is that it never explains 99% of the lore. You have to pick up on it through tiny little details in the game. Sometimes it's more blatant, sometimes it's super subtle.
Just reading up on it doesn't give the same experience as "did the incarnation of the limitless void just turn into Kirby for a second there?"

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

To be fair, knowing the exact rituals and steps to make the demonculaba would leave anyone in a similar state of mind.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I was like.. children play this game, how bad can it be.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What's so bad about Kirby?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Kirby is an unstoppable force with the brain of a child. He has killed multiple elder gods, often over nothing more than food. if you want examples, look up bosses like Zero-Two, Marx/Marx Soul, or Void Termina.

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[–] hardeehar 5 points 1 year ago

That's how it starts.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Beats the hell out of the version that requires clicking through 6 separate pictures.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Looks like Steve was introduced to the globes war crimes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Learned what DAOT humanity had to do to survive the fall.

Also what pre-fall Aeldari considered coffee with friends.

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