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[–] NABDad@lemmy.world 137 points 1 year ago (7 children)
[–] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Propaganda is a powerful tool.

[–] sik0fewl@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Pretty easy now to see how Nazi Germany got away with it.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I wonder how many people in that poll could locate Gaza on a map with no names.

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[–] xarexyouxmadx@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The other ⅔ apparently have their head in the sand .

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 55 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"It's just a sparkling massacre"

[–] Shyfer@ttrpg.network 29 points 1 year ago (9 children)

"It has to be in the correct region of Germany."

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[–] bedrooms@kbin.social 62 points 1 year ago (26 children)

Imagine you, your friends and your family get killed and washed away from your land, and 2/3 of US people don't believe it's genocide.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Actually 1/3 said it is genocide, 1/3 said it isn't, and 1/3 said they didn't know. Also, only1/3 of Americans saying this is a genocide isn't great, but it does represent a huge shift in opinion in a short time. Both our political parties support Israel, our news media doesn't cover Palestinians very sympathetically, and our education system tells a very favorable version of Israel's founding (most Americans don't even learn about the Nakba). I don't think criticism of Israel has ever been this mainstream (at least in my lifetime).

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[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 19 points 1 year ago (18 children)

Murdering people at a music festival and taking hostages might have an effect on public perception.

[–] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee 30 points 1 year ago (13 children)

The problem is, before they wemt on that murdering spree, the western world pretty much ignored their plight, or maybe tutted when they chucked a rocket or two over the border. But any kind of "proper" political solution was flatly ignored. It's not a justification, but I have to say that I umderstand why that situation led to a "fuck it, let's just rampage" attitude. And look, they actually have a tonne of eyeballs and attention on their shitty situation (and shitty leaders), so maybe something will come of this. Palestinians are paying an exorbitantly heavy price for it, though.

[–] gapbetweenus@feddit.de 15 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Sure, but again - if you murder people at a music festival and take hostages, even if you might have reasons to do so - you can expect quite a lot of people to not be on your side. The only thing for sure is that terrorists won that one.

[–] snek@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Sure, but again, if you indiscriminately kill innocent people in Gaza and destroy the very last university, even if you might have reasons to do so - you can expect quite a lot of people to not be on your side. The only thing for sure is that Israel won that one.

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[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Average Us public have no clue what is going on in their own country, it is actually amazing there 1/3 know at least there is a genocide taking place.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Israel is blocking aid organisations from buying food, water and medicine in israel and transporting it through the Ker Shalom crossing. Forcing everything through the extremely slow Egypt crossing which they are actively holding up. If they wanted to prevent weapon smuggle then they should love it going through Ker Shalom

I cannot think of a single possible explanation other than israel trying to starve Gazans and commit genocide. How are Americans this brainwashed?

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (9 children)

How are Americans this brainwashed?

This isn't limited to the US. What are Israeli citizens doing? Personally i think the US should just stay the fuck out of it and take back whatever stuff we can that we gave them. Cut off support and actively denounce, but they won't.

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[–] JoMomma@lemm.ee 54 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So at least 1/3 are paying attention

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[–] PoliticalAgitator@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably because of all the genocide they're doing.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Holy shit brah are you a detective

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I think that shows that this is not the issue that is going to really hurt Biden. What will hurt him is if the economy for the average person hasn't improved by election day. And I doubt it will. So I sure as fuck hope he doesn't lose to Trump.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

But the news keeps telling me life is improving for the average American. The News.

[–] Hegar@kbin.social 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

this is not the issue that is going to really hurt Biden

That's not my reading of the poll:

35% say it is, 36% say it isn’t, with 29% undecided.
Almost half of those surveyed aged 18-29, 49%, say Israel is committing genocide, with 24% disagreeing and 27% uncertain.
The figures are broadly similar for registered Democrats, who believe 49%-21% in the genocide characterization, while 30% are undecided.

Half of all young people and half of all Democrats believe it's a genocide, with more undecided than disbelieving. Those numbers are not likely to get better as the IDF kills more Palestinians.

Biden's not likely to pick up republican votes based on this issue, but he is quite likely to drive down youth and democrat turn out by being out of touch with his base.

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[–] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If that headline said one third of Americans don't believe Israel is commiting genocide which is also an accurate from the results it would set a very different tone.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 18 points 1 year ago (3 children)
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[–] Fullest@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

saw this one making the rounds the other day, I think it's quite fitting https://twitter.com/SaeedDiCaprio/status/1750152798623195473

do not use other genocides to describe this one

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[–] AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Another garbage YouGov propaganda piece. All my homies see right through YouGov's bullshit.

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