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Just saw on Titus Tech Talk that torrents are last decade, and newsgroups is where it's at for this stuff. Of course he didn't elaborate, so I need some help here.

What is he talking about, and what are these groups that can I ~~enter~~ er, avoid?

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[–] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Honestly he is talking out of his ass, torrents are neither dead nor slow nor used by nobody. They're very much alive.

[–] MostlyGibberish@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

Yeah, the notion that no one uses torrents anymore is hilarious. I use both frequently. Usenet is great and has a lot of benefits, but it doesn't hold a candle to torrents as far as breadth of available content.

[–] rizoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 year ago

Chris does most of his talking out his own ass in my opinion.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 year ago

Newsgroups = usenet.

[–] shrugal@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

He's talking about Usenet.

You need a provider (giving you access to it), some indexers (communities that catalog and link to releases) and a download client, and you're good to go. What you actually don't need is a VPN, because you're only loading from the provider and not seeding anything.

[–] sethw@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

more specifically you don need a vpn because it's all obfuscated ssl

[–] toasteecup@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

You'll want to do some research on nzb files and their transfer mechanism. I'd say both nzb and torrents together is the best option because you have redundancy rather than one is better than the other

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I know I get all my up to date piracy information from a comedian podcast.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Faster download speeds, high cost of entry, and a lot more malware

[–] Kata1yst@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Disagree. I've never encountered malware in over a decade. Cost of should be less than the cost of a Netflix subscription.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've used usenet for maybe 6 months lightly, so admittedly I'm not the mostly experienced. That being said, I know how to sort search results by popularity and size, and I've still had at least 5 video links download executables in that time, from various indexers. Maybe those .exes were completely innocent and not malware... But for some reason I have my doubts.

Personally I'd argue RD is actually cheap for video, and unless you NEED max download speeds, torrents are just as good as Usenet for anything else.

(Note torrents will probably need a VPN too, but that's still substantially cheaper than Usenet if you buy years at a time. And personally I use a VPN for usenet too, although I'm sure I'll be downvoted and called paranoid.)

[–] yamanii@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

People are paying to pirate?

[–] Telodzrum@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

torrents are last decade, and newsgroups is where it’s at for this stuff

100% accurate. There are a ton of guides online to getting your indexer and providers picked and set up. It's a much better space than torrents. I'm never going back into the muck with those things.

[–] Ilikeprivacy@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Interesting. Newsgroups are literally what i used last century for my piracy. But back then you got newsgroups (and other services) included with your internet.

[–] LarmyOfLone@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why don't these usenet servers get taken down? They share stuff much more directly than piratebay ever did.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They do sometimes; but they also comply with takedown notices. Thing is, they all mirror each other's data and are located globally. Take one down, 2 more pop up outside your jurisdiction; and files that get taken down are only taken from one provider at a time, while others pick up the slack. It's an endless game of wack-a-mole that's essentially a waste of time.

This is why it's somewhat important to have more than one provider in seprate jurisdictions but not absolutely critical. You can move from one to another pretty seamlessly.