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[–] [email protected] 151 points 1 year ago (13 children)

It’s pretty terrifying when you think about the possibilities of deception. And also how throwaway content is going to become. We are going to generate content at a volume orders of magnitude larger than our already current excessive volume, and finding the stuff that has real meaning and a real message is going to be even harder.

Also, artists whose work and styles fed this will be put out of business without ever being paid for their work that was used to train these models. 🫀

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I dream of a world where nobody has a job they have to do for money.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (9 children)

That sounds like hell, making money is a blast. If everything was truly equal we would all be living in extreme poverty. Global average income is $9,733 USD per year. I make that in a week, hard pass on that commie bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Going to work so I can eat and pay rent fucking sucks, what are you talking about? The fact that you even conceptualize economic output as being all about money means you're missing the point of an economy. Money is a representation of wealth, not wealth itself. You can't eat money, shelter yourself from the elements with money, cure diseases with money, etc. Having access to goods and services is a blast, but money is nothing more than a mechanism to facilitate trade and the distribution of wealth.

The "commie bullshit" is entirely your contribution. I said nothing at all about making everyone's income equal. Not within a country and certainly not between regions with wildly different costs of living. I'm talking about actual wealth, actual labor, and the way a society decides who deserves to have access to material wealth.

Let me spell it out for you: when a new technology makes a category of work obsolete, it sounds be a good thing because less work needs to be done to produce the same wealth. It's like how having a washing machine is great because it saves you from doing many hours of tedious labor with essentially no downside. The reason that doesn't work at a societal level is because our economic system is designed to funnel 100% of the benefits of labor-saving technology to a parasitic ownership class, leaving the average person poorer as a result. Our economic system is based entirely around scarcity, and introducing just a little bit of abundance breaks it and fucks over people whose labor is no longer needed by denying them access to wealth.

Do you really think it's reasonable that having less work needing to be done to produce the same wealth should ever make the average person less well off?

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Global average income is $9,733 USD per year.

Why would you cite this fact in defense of the current system?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

You're an inspiration to all out there who think intelligence is a barrier to making 9k a week.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The idea behind universal basic income is that hpu get enough money to cover your basic needs - then you can do a job you like to earn more so that you have more than basic needs fulfilled. So you could still earn money if that's what you so enjoy.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (5 children)

let's see you speak once AI takes a jab at your field

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When I was a kid, I had seen, or at least heard of, nearly every TV show from my parent's generation. Going back probably 40 years. Like, I've probably seen every Looney Tunes, every episode of M.A.S.H., and most episodes of The Munsters, because some days there wasn't anything else to watch. My kids look at me crazy if I haven't heard of the latest flash-in-the-pan influencer, but if I bring up a 10-year old movie or TV show, they have no idea what I'm talking about.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

you raise a crazy good point - the amount of data youtube generates is staggering and that includes a high barrier to entry. if sora allows anyone to just cut shit and upload it, we're going to outpace the rate at which data-free hardware is manufactured.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

And we will be stuck in a loop of type of art and culture that is a ouruborus feeding itself without new styles or genuine new art being fed after artists not being recognized and payed and not wanting to give more content to the machine. That dark ages are upon us and we are all singing it's praise.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If you are concerned about AI making "content" more throwaway, then you are already viewing creative works as something throwaway. Artists make works with meaning, AI doesn't have a brain, it can't make things with a meaning. That's the job of the artist.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

So you're saying the people who write and tweak the prompts to create the output they envisaged don't deserve to be called artists?

In my mind, AI just lowers the barrier required for people to be able to express what's in their mind

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

if you actually were to try and engage in artistic expression you'd find out the whole process from conception to finishing your creation is something worth the time, and mistakes/accidents that often happen during it can bring new ideas to the surface. In that process you have the ultimate control over how good it turns out. Be it comically bad or a masterpiece there's a charm in how you have expressed your idea.

AI flattens all that to a button click and regurgitates what's already been made by somebody else, oftentimes creating something you've most likely already seen, somewhere, and won't remember for long.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah, I am. Same way "prompt programming" isn't a thing

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It's called "prompting" and anybody doing it deserves mockery

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Correct, they are not artists.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

AI just lowers the barrier required for people to be able to express what's in their mind

Yeah, there's nothing wrong with people being about to express themselves, but that's not necessarily art. With art the barriers are things like talent, creativity, and hard work. Lowering those barriers mostly creates rubbish. Typing 'Make a pic of an x fighting a y and make it look cool!' doesn't make anyone an artist.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

We spent decades depicting science fiction AIs as the key to giving humanity true freedom from mandatory labor, and now we're scared because it can do creative work too? We'll adapt. We'll be just fine. A new generation will crop up that will have no issues with AI-generated content. We're too old to see it like they will. Just like a lot of our parents and grandparents didn't understand email until they were forced to, while us kids were doing all kinds of things online.

I mean shoot, my parents still argue with me over whether electronic music is even music or not. It's just gonna be another tool in an artist's arsenal.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

We spent decades depicting science fiction AIs as the key to giving humanity true freedom from mandatory labor

Very few people benefit from automation and AI. Most of us will eventually be replaced by an IA and our only freedom will be to starve (or to rebel, who knows)

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago

Okay so who has the updated Will Smith's spaghetti video?

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Instead of using robots to replace menial jobs and help humans who have physical labour jobs, they've invented a tool that will get rid of all white collar jobs, forcing us all into manual, low paid labour jobs.

Taxes will fall off a cliff and life will get really bad because the state won't have money to maintain the country. Companies making Ai content won't be able to sell it because no one can has money to buy it. In general all product sales will fall off a cliff, except for food, and many companies will close, resulting in mass unemployment and eventually collapse of society .....

Great job morons!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If AI gets really good, manual labor automation won't be far behind, as the AI itself will be applied to robotics and AI research.

The only thing of value left will be natural resources.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Sounds like good motivation for the machines to kill us off and keep the resources for themselves

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

More like, a motivation for the wealthy who control the machines to kill us off.

AI sentience is still science fiction but AI-powered corporate exploitation is very real, right now.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Happily my job is so shit and poorly paid that I don't anticipate it ever being worth automating. Sometimes humans are just cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

forcing us all into manual, low paid labour jobs.

Maybe we should have shown some solidarity with people in those jobs and fought for them to get paid better?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's always money/wealth in the economy. If the workers don't have it, someone else does. Find where the money is, and tax it. Then redistribute.

It's not a hard concept. It's a question of the political will. We know what to do, but will we do it?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

dont worry Bro, they're gonna replace the low paid jobs too.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Came here to doom-scroll. I was not disappointed.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago

I hate this.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can we get a tldr? Can't watch a video.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've asked Gemini for a summary and it's pretty spot on:

This video is about AI generated videos and how they have become very realistic.

The speaker, Marques Brownlee, discusses a new AI model called Sora that can generate videos from text input. He shows examples of videos generated by Sora, including one of a woman walking down a Tokyo street, a car driving up a mountain road, and a litter of puppies playing in the snow. He points out that these videos are still not perfect, but they are much better than what was possible just a year ago.

He discusses the implications of this technology, both good and bad. On the one hand, it could be used to create fake videos that could be used to deceive people. On the other hand, it could be used to create stock footage that is more affordable and accessible than ever before. Brownlee concludes by saying that this technology is still in its early stages, but it has the potential to change the world in many ways.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’ve asked Gemini for a summary

man you've post the video and couldn't even summarize it yourself? talk about laziness huh

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Let's see. Spend several minutes composing a few paragraphs, followed by revising because of errors in composition, spelling,or grammar...or simply spend a few seconds with AI. Work smarter not harder.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

That's amazing. I didn't know AI can do that. Going to start doing that from now on!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

TLDR: a year ago AI video was garbage. Today it’s almost as good as one that would cost a few hundred thousand dollars to pay a human production team to make (according to someone who’s professional work is creating those videos).

It’s not quite there - hands glitch out occasionally. Sometimes animation doesn’t quite line up right (e.g. walking might skip a step) but it’s 99% there and and the improvements over the last 12 months are astounding. That last 1% surely won’t take long to close.

There was a landscape drone video from a helicopter that looked absolutely real.

Note this is not publicly available yet - OpenAI said they are still working on safety features to reduce the risk of it being used to create content that they want no part in.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

My jaw is on the floor. It makes typing very difficult.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Now I can be in the Simpsons! Everyone in my front yard security camera can be in the Simpsons πŸ˜€!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

β€œSir, I understand you’re trying to be helpful, but I assure you the background characters from the symptoms did not rob you.”

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When do we get to use this? I don't know what a "Red Team Member" is, but I pay a monthly membership.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Red Team is a hacking term that refers to people who try to sabotage or use the system to create harmful content, as a way to test and discover problems before it is usable by any external users.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_team

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's inaccurate. Red Team is the guys that test your security from an attacker view point. Red Teams are often contractors hired by companies. The companies are the ones paying to be "hacked", so they can fix whatever gaping security holes the red Team finds.

At least, that's usually the definition. If just talking about AI stuff, I'd call those people testers.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm really excited for this. This way, converting my favourite webtoons to full blown animations won't be that difficult (in the sense that it won't cost millions of dollars). Really exciting times!

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have a look at Blender it is free and open source software which enables you to create 3d animations. You can find tutorials on the Internet.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

That requires vastly more work to produce any results at all, to the point that most animation people might want to produce never gets made because the process is far too expensive. Mediocre animation that gets made using AI tools is better then high-quality animation that never gets made at all.

Blender and AI tools both have their place but they're not interchangeable. And just wait until Blender starts incorporating AI, which it will, because the purpose of something like Blender is to use computers to automate most of the work that would need to be done with previous generations of tools, and AI is just an extension of that. Animation will exist on a continuum from fully handmade artwork to fully machine generated artwork. Unless you think everything should be drawn by hand one frame at a time, you should be happy about everyone being able to produce animation in a way that suits their skill level and the amount of time they have available.

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