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[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 years ago (16 children)

You know what I hate about this? In the past, you could very easily vote with your wallet by spending it on organic food, instead of this poison laden crap.

But these days, food is so expensive that very few have that option, so we pay a premium to these companies who really don't give a damn about us, the planet, or biodiversity.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (2 children)

You know what I hate about this? Somewhere someone is getting paid to allow the ag industry to slide on requirements, with the end result of people being poisoned. And we have zero say or representation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

The only say we have anymore is to do something about it.

Then they call those people eco-terrorists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Well in the land of the fee, you might have about 50 000 say in total to be divided up to what you need (a bunch of that going straight to your landlord or mortgage company anyway), while big agriculture firms have 10 000 000s of say dedicated to the policy initiatives they want.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

That's a really long way to call me poor πŸ˜‚

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I understand to a degree allowing an increase in pesticide use (though that'll seriously impact the water quality due to runoff), the only thing that the industry needs to do to reduce pesticide residue is to just spray the produce with water.

It's just a way to cheapen out the process at the expense of people's health. And I don't just mean the end shoppers', but also all the industry workers along the way. While I imagine the amount isn't a lot, but an increase in pesticide residue that makes it all the way through the supply chain increases how much the workers are exposed to as they handle the produce.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

the only thing that the industry needs to do to reduce pesticide residue is to just spray the produce with water.

Water is often the enemy you are applying the pesticide to combat; a practice known as desiccation. Granted, it seems everyone's favourite desiccant is no longer on the table for modification here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They might just mean wash the final product before shipping it out to the grocery stores.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I see you've never worked with flour before. Once it meets water there is no turning back.

Granted, if you catch it earlier, wheat berries aren't that hard to run through the dryer, assuming you accept the environmental and financial cost. Get into beans, though... Good luck.

If you just mean something like Apples, which don't need to be dry, who doesn't already wash it before consumption already?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Well of course the moment you've processed the crop it's too late to wash them. I was mostly just talking about fruits and vegetables.

But for grains and legumes, washing them before hulling them shouldn't be a problem. Of course there's the issue of added costs, but spraying additional pesticides is also a cost.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

I don't want more pesticides in my food. But more importantly we wanna keep the bees and other insects alive. If they disappear, we disappear. Simple as that

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

The guy in the photo can't even be bothered to wear his respirator correctly.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Why? We already have 60% less insects in part BECAUSE of this?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why the fuck would this be a good idea

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wait until we switch to a blue government. Regulators and inspectors are the first jobs shed for "small government" so it doesn't matter what the numbers are then because we won't be testing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I guess guerilla farming it is then !

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Whoever got paid

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

I think many here are forgetting we get a lot of our produce and fruit from Brazil, China, etc.

That's who this rule relaxation is aimed at.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Ask Osoyoos about their high cancer rate from pestices being used on all the fruit and berry farms there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They're using a science-based process to update the maximum residue limit. That's a good thing

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (26 children)

β€œSafe Food Matters president Mary Lou McDonald agreed. Accessing the health and safety data the PMRA uses to determine MRLs is challenging due to stringent limits on what data can be seen β€” and shared β€” by the public to protect pesticide companies' intellectual property. She noted issues with the accuracy and relevance of the data used by the government in its assessment process.

Moreover, she noted the PMRA and pesticide manufacturers have a close working relationship β€” an issue also flagged by Lanphear.”

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