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Private trackers are well known for their elitist and insufferable users. I'd like to know the reasons behind their gatekeeping. Is it just mere elitism to feel superior or are there any other reasons? I've heard people saying they like to have a smaller number of high quality users for long term stability. I've even heard people tell they're designed to keep government and federal agents away. I'd like to hear your thoughts.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are you asking about why private trackers are private or are you asking about why a handful of people were mean to you who also happened to use a private tracker?

Edit: typo

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The primary reason a private track is private is to make it feasible to maintain a curated community. Many users are not good torrent citizens. Many users are not good netizens in the first place. More than a few will look to actively do harm. Keeping a mostly closed community allows the vetting of users and those who end up breaking the rules are dealt with swiftly.

The extra barrier of entry also helps prevent bad actors from operating on the site. This is of course not a full proof thing but it is obviously much better than a public site.

Additionally running a private tracker and site takes server resources that are not free. Limiting the total number of users is a way of maintaining uptime by staying within your operational limits.

I'm sure there are other benefits for private trackers but these are at least a few.

I am not going to explain why someone on the internet was mean to you. Given the tone of this post I wouldn't be surprised if it was deserved.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Also curating the content itself, not just the users. Mods/Staff can make sure that the content uploaded is actually what's expected.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nearly all the rules members need to follow (which can vary from one tracker to another) are about seeding enough. That's the main universal thing. Not allowing people to "Hit and Run". For a member to do that, it typically takes dedicating some substantial drive space and seed time. Far more than most people are willing/able to dedicate. This allows the tracker to curate a large library of high quality material. That's the primary ideology.

Secondary to that, it has the added benefit of making sure everyone involved is "cool". Cool as in, not a nark who's going to get people sued and the site shut down. That used to be a big issue. I don't know if it is now. I'm kind of out of touch with public torrent sites.

As to why we're insufferable elitists? What do you want me to say? Rulers' gonna rule.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TIL I'm elitist and insufferable

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Might not be you but in general most PT users are pretty insufferable

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

poor Packet Tracer users. It's a profession you know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No he clearly meant Pocket Tanks users. Those elitist who still play artillery combat game from 2002.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No he clearly meant physio therapists. Those elitists who keep telling you to stretch more.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

People call private tracker users gatekeepers a lot. While thats true sometimes, its bullshit most of the time IMO. There are some trackers with open signups (sometimes), some require interview to join and some provide free invites to all users. If you join one, you get a chance to join another one. There are some that are "impossible" to join, but who cares if they want to stay small or whatever. Private trackers are not gold mine, almost all content is available elswhere, sometimes trackers go down or site is not working, sometimes they disappear forever.

Tracker wouldnt be private if anyone can join, having too many people might lead to take down. Having more people than needed (for healthy tracker) is just extra risk probably. Users more likely keep their account(s) healthy and follow the rules (like ratio and hit&run), they donate to tracker and they are willing to pay for a seedbox, thats why its better than public trackers IMO. All (10+) people I have invited got banned because they didnt care about anything there (mostly inactivity for months) and they are happy with public trackers or they moved to a payed service.

Private trackers are not for everyone, if you cba go for public or pay for usenet. If you are into movies/tv shows, setup *arr stack with VPN and public trackers and you will enjoy it the same way as anyone on private trackers. If you are nerd like me and have patience, dont mind keeping your torrent client online look into private trackers

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I used to visit an specialized private tracker that went offline, deli.sh, it's had only food content, like video courses and a lot of books. Everything had at least a couple of seeders, so even that ultra rare French language pastry book was available to download. My girlfriend, now wife, was on cooking academy and I downloaded a lot of books and courses for her that would be unavailable anywhere else on the internet. I don't think you can really have that kind of collection on a public tracker.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

It is hard to find films with specific languages on public trackers. They are private one in some languages only.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was a member of What.CD back in the day, and holy fuck, the elitism was insufferable... but the amount of genuine lossless music was unlike anywhere else, and the site was so well organized.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I was on 32pag.es before it died, and it an amazing comic tracker, still haven't found comparable in public yet.