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I recently made a post asking about getting spotify cheaper via vpn.

My question to everyone: how do you decide what to download?

Do you just grab everything, do you use last fm, do you erase music that you never listen to?

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[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Storage is cheap, and music (even in FLAC format) is small. You can fit tens of thousands of songs into a terabyte.

I download anything and everything. An artist I enjoy? Entire discography. I've only heard one song? Entire discography--there may be more I might enjoy! An artist in a genre I like but I've never heard? Entire discography.

I'm at over 125k songs, and I still feel like my collection is a sliver. I eventually want to reach 1m songs and truly become my own Spotify. Finding songs I've never heard before and that I end up loving in my own collection is a joy I can't describe.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

This. Just search for open directories and download entire music collections from the web to the download folder. Then dump them into MusicBrainz Picard and move whatever has proper tags into your music library. Finally, play the newly downloaded songs in random order.

The amount of stuff out there is amazing! I discovered all kinds of genres streaming services never would've recommended to me. Truly widens your palette.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

How do you decide what to listen to? I assume you don't listen to multiple entire discographies

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Whatever I feel like listening to that day. In that regard it's no different than having a massive Spotify/Apple music library

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If I wanna listen to something and I don't know what, I just let LMS give me a random album and see what I get!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I actually listen to music on Twitch a lot. I follow a handful of streamers who play music I like, and are always playing stuff that is new to me, and kindly list track IDs on the video feed.

I hear a song I like by an artist I am unfamiliar with and then guess what...? Entire discography.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Interesting. Do you just listen on Random all the time, with maybe favorites or whatever?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Depends. I tend to listen to whole albums, so I let LMS give me a random album if I wanna hear something new. If I'm in the mood for whatever, I do random mixes in LMS. LMS also has a music similarity feature (with plugins) that will play related songs after an album, too, so that also helps me find new stuff that sounds like stuff I already like

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Hol' up: Let's say the average size for a song (in FLAC format) is 30MB. 125k × 30 = 3'750'000 MB, or 3TB+!

Thas a lot of storage. O.o

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You pretty much calculated spot on! ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

A single drive of that size goes for less than $100 USD (sometimes much less!). It'd actually be more economical to get an 8TB device for less than 2x the price. I'd suspect most folks in this community have far more than 3TB available...

[–] ponchow8NC 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Noob here: How do you handle editing tags and album covers on that large amount of music? I recently started to experiment with learning how to use a batch script on mkv files to edit their metadata and was wondering if there was something similar with music files?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If I like it I download it, save the whole album or discography. Archive everything. Never delete. Same for books and movies and shows, though I find myself watching less of those lately.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I do the same. If i like them i download the discog. Gotta do something with 200tb nas

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

https://github.com/RandomNinjaAtk/arr-scripts/tree/main/lidarr downloads automatically. I don't really decide. I add artists when I see one missing.

It's more important to contribute to musicbrainz than to my library. If musicbrainz has it, I can dosnload it, if not, I can't download it either.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

So far I really haven't had musicbrainz be missing any artists or songs, idk if its different if you listen to indie or niche music though

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

To everyone in here saying they download entire discographies, great! I agree. But the follow up question is how do you even find out about new (to you) artists that you might like? I've cross referenced the library I have (about 27k tracks) with the "similar artists" sections of Spotify, last.fm, etc, and I feel like I'm just going around in circles. All of the similar artists are just similar to each other and I have all of it already. How do you branch out?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've never found similar artists to be helpful. Most of the time it's just a worse version of the thing I like. I don't really like stuff that sounds very samey though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'm an old man. "Back in my day", we heard by word of mouth, the radio, browsing at music shops, etc.

We can still do that in the digital age. When someone posts a random song, anywhere, check it out. Try checking out internet radio of genres you like (I'm finding a lot of Classical this way currently). Check out Bandcamp and IRL music store every once in a while just see what calls to you. Sometimes, let the cool album art guide you ;)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Depending on how diverse your taste is, you could always try to branch out to something outside of "similar artists". Just look up genre names and start checking them out. If you find something you like, you can use the same " similar artists" approach on an entirely new search space.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I like a song from a artist so I download the entire catalog. Lossless where I can

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like other people, whole discographies. Artist URL straight into deemix and let it do it's thing.

For finding new music, I mostly rely on radiostations such as Kerrang! and YouTube subscriptions or recommendations.

MP3 320 is what I go for, I don't have the equipment to benefit from FLAC.

I set and forget too, never delete. You never know when it'll become impossible to get that data back if you want it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You should check out last.fm (or musicbrainz, which I prefer since its open source). You connect your apps to it (Plex, tidal, Spotify, etc), they send over songs as you listen to them, you can rank them as love or hate (and some other stuff) and they curate playlists and artists that they think you'll like based on your listening habits

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

If i like it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Honestly i mostly download songs on .mp3 format individually.

Unless someone has been kind enough to compile the entire album on a .zip file

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I just set up lidarr with all artists I like listening to and tell it to download everything they've made. That's how I have about 700gb of flac files

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Didn't know last fm was still around. I ditched them after they were breached. Musicbrainz is an apt alternative. I'm still bummed about how bad AI is at recommending similar songs /a artists. I'll grab random stuff and stuff from Musicbrainz recommendatiins. I definitely delete stuff I don't like, not for saving space but mainly just to keep my library tight. I also have nightmares about being in a coma and someone finding my music collection and thinking it's something I really like but really it's 80% garbage that I can't stand and they play it for me in a loop for weeks and I can't tell them to stop because of coma. I'm also pretty vocal in my life about not really liking country music, not because I want to be a judgemental jerk about it, but mainly because of the coma thing, and I want to make sure I'm not stuck listening to that in the coma.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I read reviews from some music review websites. I also get recommendations from friends. Occasionally, I might go shopping for new music on youtube

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Listen to a song. I like the song. I download the song. It's not rocket science.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I add stations to my radio app, like Ancient FM, Cosmo Vintage, Intergalactic FM, King Dub, Nightwave Plaza, Radio Nova. Tons of cool stuff comes up, most is tagged. If I really like it I soulseek it. I stopped downloading whole albums by default, good tunes end up in my assorted folder. I throw out stuff I don't listen to as well, I'm not a hoarder.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If I hear a song I like in a movie, game or other media I add the song and the discography for the artist to the downloader.

Once I have some free time I listen through those songs and filter out everything I don't like.

The rest gets added to my collection. I never delete songs unless something slipped through like a short interlude.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

If I find something and I don't have it, yet, I download it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What a weird question. I download music I like. Sometimes I buy stuff on Bandcamp or download from YT. I don't use Spotify and I'm an album/artist listener. Am I missing something here? Do people not have personal music libraries any more? Do people now just listen to whatever bullshit Spotify randomly plays? If so, that's sad.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

For a while, it was noted that the "Hip Hop Caviar" playlist had a direct and noticeable affect on single/album sales and streams on other platforms. So yeah kinda, although people are still interested in owning the music they like, but a not-insignificant portion of humans don't care either way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Google Play Music hooked me by letting me upload my entire library. I used Songza to discover new music (playlists curated by real humans).

Google bought Songza and shut it down. Raised the price of Google Music multiple times, forced me over to YouTube Premium, raised the price again multiple times and got rid of everything that made the service appealing.

I've been in music limbo since I dropped it entirely and yeah it's kind of sad.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Man, songza was so great. It was my default music app 11 years ago lol

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I follow YT accounts that post music that I'm interested in such as Vapor Memory or Cryo Chamber. I'm also on the mailing lists of several artists on Bandcamp so I get notified of new releases. I ask friends for recommendations, I ask on forums, other places. Really not that hard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Usually go for More obscure rare stuff like video game sound tacks and underground lesser known artists that I find. Eventually, the top ones that pique my interest I will end up buying physical copies or purchased digital files because I wanna show My support.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

"Now that's what I call music" I'm embarrassed to say, I use those volumes a lot to keep in touch with younger generations, new music. Also, among the more popular torrents generally, so download fast.