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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 207 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] lawrence@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Oh no, not again.

edit: I simply wish to enjoy comics, and I hope others can enjoy them too, without having to do a full background check on the author of the comic, keeping the community simple and nice. This should be like a library of good comics.

[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 105 points 1 year ago

I understand your desire, but life does not exist in a vacuum. While death of the artist may be easy for you, it is not as simple of an equation for others, especially when said author still lives and benefits monetarily from their creation. And yes, I think we have some culpability even in what we share for free, as keeping them culturally relevant allows their benefits and influence to continue.

Personally, I was a big Dilbert fan; my parents used to gift me a new Dilbert calendar annually and I subscribed to the Washington Post for years in no small part so I could read the weekly Dilbert strip. So I'll admit it, I take this particular betrayal a little personally. Finding out that Scott Adams was a racist bag of shit felt like hearing that my favorite uncle was actually an non-convicted rapist.

For what it's worth though, I am sorry that Scott Adam's gross personal abhorrent opinions get in the way of enjoying your silly office humor comic strip, sincerely.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I get not wanting deal with every artist's hidden history. But Adams is a well known and documented nut. Your comment is like wondering why people are mad at Roman Polanski and why you can't just "enjoy" his movies. Sure you can, but I'm gonna judge you for it.

[–] strawberrysocial@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you not watch or enjoy any of the movies that Harvey Weinstein had his name or company attached to? Cuz it's a shit load of films and stuff you are saying people shouldn't be allowed to enjoy without being judged for it because that guy was a monster.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A little different to say Weinstein was as involved in say a Tarantino movie, as Polanski was in a Polanski movie.

[–] strawberrysocial@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

How is it different? He profited from it, did he not? Shouldn't you feel bad or guilty for watching movies he got money from producing or having his name/company attached to, by your own logic?

[–] Johanno@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I did hear today the first time about a man named Adams or Roman Polanski and I support OPs point. As long as the media I consume doesn't reflect the authors political opinion I don't care.

Would you judge me for playing minecraft because the creator of it is suddenly known for being racist?

[–] Llamalitmus@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Unfortunately, in a capitalist society, consuming media and products supports the creators and the media apparatus around them. So by contributing views/clicks/whatever, you benefit those people. If those people use their money/influence in a negative way (against marginalized communities or antivax or anti worker etc) then you are directly helping those causes. I still listen to CDs of some artists that have been found to be awful, but I won't stream, or purchase merch, or event tickets. Everyone is going to draw their lines in different places, and we can't avoid all harm. But own it. Trying to say that what you're doing has no effect is intellectually dishonest

Edit: missed the 't in a can't

[–] Maven@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

All art reflects its artist.

For example... Minecraft... The villagers are well known as a racist Jewish stereotype which directly reflects its former heads actual real racism against Jewish people.

This is not saying that Minecraft is bad, in the same way that the Goblins from Tolkiens stories don't make Tolkien bad... But the art directly reflects the artist.

In something like Minecraft, there are too many hands in the pot at this point for a single voice to be the cause of writing off the whole game but with Adams, Polanski and Stone toss, there is no way to separate their art from them. They are the leading/sole voice and that voice is very easy to hear in what they write.

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

And you judge people on such grounds, but you will also be judged for doing so.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure. If I become a racist Maga bigot, or I rape a child like Polanski, I shall be judged for it. I accept that

[–] Alteon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If your local bar owner is a known child rapist, are you going to go and drink beers or order food at their bar?

Probably not, yeah? I mean, sure, it's not like the beer or food did anything wrong, but why still go there and support their business when there's another bar right down the street?

People don't want to support a known racist, and would rather just go read any one of the other thousand+ comic strips out there.

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

His racism and abhorrent views have leaked into his content, there is no separating the art from the artist here.

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Didn't leak into this particular comic strip though

[–] lawrence@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

This is not a coincidence, though. I would not post or allow racist comics in this community.

[–] wahming@monyet.cc 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know about his racist rants, do you have some examples of affected comics? Too many unrelated results on Google

[–] DarkGamer@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] wahming@monyet.cc 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't get it though. The introduction and context outside the comic are insanely biased, but the comic itself, without context, seems fine? Granted I'm not American, so I might be missing something

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

context is a bitch isnt it

[–] magnusrufus@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

Not again? Last time was stonetoss. If you are this disconnected maybe do a quick "is this artist a well known bigot" web search before posting from here on.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

This should be like a library of good comics.

Right. But libraries have books that talk about other books. In the same way, it's fair to have discussion sections that discuss the comic strip's authors. Otherwise, the discussion sections will just be full of things like: "This!" or "OMG so relatable" etc.

[–] zipzoopaboop@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

On the upside, he inspired an interesting couple episodes of behind the bastards about himself

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 117 points 1 year ago

Fuck Scott Adams, fucking racist MAGA trash.

[–] cozy_agent@lemmy.world 96 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Scott Adams is trash, and also this is so outdated. No top engineer wants to work at Google anymore, just middle management hell and a product you create will most likely be killed within 2 years.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Scott Adams doesn't know shit about how the office world works. He probably worked in an office in the 80s for a year and turned that into a whole thing

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 30 points 1 year ago

He started doing Dilbert full-time in 1995, so that's as far as his office experience would go.

[–] Remmock@kbin.social 27 points 1 year ago

Adams has admitted that he hasn’t been in an office in such a long time that he doesn’t know what’s relevant anymore. In classic Dilbert fashion, the admission slipped as part of his defense that his comics were current and he had a finger on the pulse of the technology sector.

[–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I mean... (ex-)Googlers still think they walk on water, so it's accurate as far as that goes. IMO, the stereotype was never true that they were all amazing and brilliant. Maybe it's just the subsector I spend most of my time with where they were less than stellar.

I know he's been canceled for being an alt-right magat, but that doesn't make this less funny to me.

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

The hooli roof is a real thing

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

It's over 10 years old, so that makes sense.

[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, you're still going to be paid a sick package - to say that no top engineer wants to work for Google is just downright inaccurate.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago

Fuck Scott Adams.

[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 56 points 1 year ago

Fuck Scott Adams

[–] Vega@feddit.it 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I miss those comics. I know the author is a shitty human, but his strips were great

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Second panel: (spews various advertisements)

Third panel: "Unfortunately, he's already undergone enshittification." / "I've just sold all your personal information!"

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 10 points 1 year ago

At least he's actually bright

[–] pantyhosewimp 6 points 1 year ago

Does no one remember the pornographic speech bubble replacements for Dilbert from the 90s? Now those were hilarious.

It had stuff like pointy haired boss saying he drank coffee & ate asparagus to flavor his piss before Dilbert drinks it. Stuff like that.