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    [–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    $previous_job allowed us to pick. One of my coworkers had to replace his laptop, and I convinced him to try out Linux this time. I handed him the bootstrap script and he was back to working by the afternoon.

    Our CEO got wind of this and said as a matter of policy everyone is switching to Linux unless they have a good reason (needing excel for financial reports is a good reason). The two new hires who had been setting up their dev environment for over a week at that point were the trigger for this.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    keep spreading the good word!

    [–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    90% of my work is done in WSL anyways... I would much rather have KDE as my DE than Windows 11. Please Microsoft, if you love Linux so much now, port Office to it, and maybe my employer would be ok with it.

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    [–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    we not only allow it, we enforce it. windows not allowed in my company

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

    Same at my company.

    My favorite bit was when the Microsoft rep sent a PDF explaining how much the company would save from tech support to the CFO, bypassing the CTO they were communicating with.

    And the CFO shared the whole thing publicly for the entire company to laugh at.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    Same here. Linux only shop. It is fairly awesome and part of the reason I'm staying. I've never worked at a company that managed the compromise between following security procedures required by customers and not pissing off their engineers this well.

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    We don't even have Firefox at work.

    Only options are Edge and Chrome.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Blame their DoH for killing FF deployment in the enterprise. Companies don't like not being in charge of their DNS traffic. DoT is better from corporate POV as that can all be blocked or redirected based on the port, not so much DoH which uses the same port as normal web traffic.

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Those are definitely acronyms.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    Nah, companies can just disable DOH if they want using GPOs.

    https://github.com/mozilla/policy-templates/blob/v5.8/docs/index.md

    [–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I don't have windows allowed on my job, thanks god

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

    The build team will not allow a single line of Windows code to infect their pipelines

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    But they'll use Azure devops 🧠

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (3 children)

    It's simple, cost. Supporting multiple DE's is expensive. And provides little or no benefit to the company.

    It may work at a small company with tech savvy users (like the ones commenting here). But ultimately at a normal large business, is nothing but a hassle that at best makes a few employees happy.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    Cisco now supports developers running Linux feiw

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

    Yes because developers don't call tech support when they've accidentally deleted the Outlook icon from their desktop.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

    Those few employees are probably going to all be developers, and despite there being a bunch of mathematics and engineering involved, being a developer is very much a creative process. Similarly, I wouldn't begrudge a digital artist for wanting to use a Mac to do their work.

    If a developer is asking for a thing, they're not asking for it because they've suddenly developed a nervous tic. There's typically a reason behind it. Maybe its because they want to learn that thing to stay relevant, or explore it's feasibility, or maybe it's to support another project.

    I used to get the old "we don't support thing because nobody uses thing" a lot. The problem with that thinking is that unless support for whatever thing immaculates out of nowhere it'll just never happen. And that's a tough sell for a developer who needs to stay relevant.

    I remember in like 2019 I asked for my company to host git repos on the corporate network, and I got a hard no. Same line, there wasn't a need, nobody uses git. I was astounded. I thought my request was pretty benign and would just sail right through because by that point it was almost an industry standard to use git. I vented about it to some devs in another department and learned that they had a system with local admin attached to the corporate network that somehow IT didn't know about. They were using that to host their repos.

    I guess what I'm trying to say is that if keeping employees happy is too expensive, then you gotta at least be aware of the potential costs of unhappy employees.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    My last employer had several thousand employees. Some of the IT guys knew Linux, but it wasn't anywhere in the organization. I managed to convince them to let me install Linux on my desktop. They said sure, with the provision that I was not allowed to have a single issue. If I had an issue, they'd format it back. It was a fantastic last 8-9 years at work, as far as computer use went.

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    learned that they had a system with local admin attached to the corporate network that somehow IT didn't know about. They were using that to host their repos.

    That's called shadow IT and is a huge security risk.

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

    I'm glad that I've never had to rely on windows at work. It's been linux all the way even when it still had a lot of rough edges.

    It was still way ahead of WfW or 95 though.

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

    Our software is officially supported on Windows and Linux. For some reason our chief product uses a Mac, so we support that unofficially. It can be quite a hassle to keep our code compatible on those platforms and Build Bot often gets angry when I open a pull request, but boy is it nice to be able to use whatever OS I like for development!

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    My current employer is a first for me:

    • engineering essentially have to use Macs. Windows is accepted but not supported
    • all products are built and hosted on Linux, both cloud and on-prem
    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

    Workstations/laptops at my current job in order of popularity: nixos, arch, macos. Windows is around 2%.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    It's funny working at a company that doesn't allow Linux on a workstation, but is also actively developing and deploying tons of Linux-based products...

    I think the real reason is that their MDM cant lock down a Linux machine the way it locks down a Windows or Mac machine...

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

    My employer allows Linux - only a customized version of Fedora that's preconfigured to handle our environment, including certificates (802.1x, browser client certs, etc) with automated renewal, endpoint management software, deployment of settings using Chef, etc.

    We have a few internal apps built using React Native though, which is only available on Windows and MacOS. There's been some Github repos trying to port React Native to Linux but nothing that's production-quality yet.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    The company i work with allow any OS to be installed. With a caveat, because we are heavily invested in the Windows eco system using office 365 and Microsoft Dynamics Nav and sql server, Ms AD. With that said, if you use that software for more than 50% of your work time we recommend Windows. But otherwise it is still the employees choice and if you are completely comfortable running windows in a VM, go for it. IT won't give you endless support if you have too many issues with your VM. If we loose to much time and you are not proficient enough in macOS or Linux then we just give you a windows machine.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    I've had Linux 3 jobs in a row so I've been lucky that way, it usually helps to match production so that's a good argument for it.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

    My solution is to host a virtual machine with my dev workstation, and use Windows or Mac for business admin stuff like email, slack, etc.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

    I’m still surprised people still use the term sysadmin.