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[–] [email protected] 137 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Try ordering at a french breakfast joint if you want to learn what true humiliation feels like. Having your French criticized by an unexpectedly persistent native speaker is unforgettable. I ordered coffee not crepes, you pretentious Italian-derivative median fish in the world’s tiniest pond. I see you snickering. Who orders a raspberry coffee? Guillaume, if you’re reading this, I hope you never eat a decent croissant again for the rest of your life.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your first mistake was to speak in a language which randomly decides to have some extra letters which it doesn't pronounce.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There's nothing worse in terms of pronunciation than English. French is silly for writing twice as much as what's pronounced, but at least it mostly follows some rules.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Doesn't english just get that from being three languages in a trench coat?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One of which is French, yes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one at the bottom who is supposed to just fucking walk but keeps threatening the stability of the whole thing by randomly blurting out nonsense.

In the dimly lit boudoir, she sat at her ornate bureau, perusing an array of gourmet hors d'oeuvres, contemplating which avant-garde piece from her repertoire to perform at the soirée, her silhouette an epitome of haute couture elegance. Meanwhile, her fiancé, a connoisseur of fine arts and a critic of the bourgeoisie's penchant for laissez-faire economics, prepared a detailed critique on the nuances of ballet and the je ne sais quoi of modern art installations, embodying the esprit de corps of their eclectic salon.

Statements dreamed by the utterly deranged.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They have played us for absolute fools.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I detest that meme, but you made me snort.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's one of the few memes that I find genuine enjoyment in ha. Glad I could bring you a bit of joy, if even for a moment.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don’t just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." --James D. Nicoll

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This reads like Pratchett. Love it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What’s so wild is that, as a native speaker, there are SO many rules and edge cases and exceptions…. And I know them by heart without ever being told them explicitly. First example that comes to mind is the whole order of adjectives…. We say big fluffy purple cat, never purple fluffy big cat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I can't imagine trying to teach that or explain it in a way that would be satisfactory to someone learning English.

"I don't KNOW, its just how we do it!"

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I learnt English as my second (technically third) language. Other two languages I know are written and spoken exactly the same.

So take it from me, French pronunciation can be baffling or straight up ridiculous at times. English has got nothing on it. I don't care if French aren't heureux at this comment.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are baffling and ridiculous but they are consistent in that. Once you learn one baffling and ridiculous rule, you can successfully apply that rule to correctly pronounce almost any new word you've never encountered before. Eaux is a stupid fucking way of writing "o" to be sure, but at least you will always immediately know how to pronounce it without ever having to guess, or hear it from someone else. Meanwhile in English you write "read" but you pronounce it "read".

There are of course exceptions, but show me one language in the world that has none.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am now very competent in Spanish and making no progress in French. Real speakers sound nothing like the classroom. It's so frustrating. I feel like the French are all mumbling with Nutella in their mouths, but my tutor is clear as a bell.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Spanish is that much easier than French? Interesting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

As a multilingual fluent Spanish speaker. Yes, yes it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Easier to pronounce once you know the rules, at least.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

French literally has rules with more exceptions than things that apply to the rule.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I am currently learning French and what gets me is how much of the French language is contextual for its meaning

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I know you ioke but French (or a common root language) shaped so much of what the English language is today it wouldn't surprise me if French influence is why we have that in English as well

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Exactly like English!

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a stereotypical metalhead, with the all black clothes, long hair, and monster tshirts and I have no problem ordering goofy shit. I'll get the fruitiest drink they have and down it with my pinky up, no problem.

[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (3 children)

But remember. Most stereotypical metalheads know that their masculinity isn't defined by something like this. I've seen metalheads with beards and long hair absolutely slay in skirts and dresses.
I really love when "the stereotypical metalhead" is pulled out for masculinity comparisons because most I know don't give a shit about masculinity and just want to be themselves. And I love that.
If a cute and goofy name of a pancake can make someone insecure for ordering it, then they suffer really huge insecurities.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have my own insecurities as well, but a funny food name isn't really that bad. Or bad at all. Idk where I'm going with this.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

But remember. Most stereotypical metalheads know that their masculinity isn’t defined by something like this. I’ve seen metalheads with beards and long hair absolutely slay in skirts and dresses.

I don't doubt it. A mosh pit is a great leg workout.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 year ago

Maybe im the weird one, but I will happily order stuff like the "rooty tooty fresh 'n' fruity pancakes" exactly as named on the menu with a huge grin on my face. Or if im feeling silly, I'll ask for it with a completely deadpan monotone while looking the waiter in the eye.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you're already at IHOP to begin with, saying "rooty tooty fresh 'n fruity" does not increase your level of shame.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago

Customer walks out, goes to a non-corporate local diner where they call them "Fruit Pancakes"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Well that got darker than I was expecting

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Probably because they don't, and this is made up is my guess.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This is probably an exaggeration of "is pepsi okay" and analogues, the employee doesn't want to screw up the order by a potential misunderstanding

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"I want the three piece menu"

"we do not have a three piece menu"

"It says so on the poster right above your head"

"Oh, you want the threesome. Gotcha"

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's like a warp portal that you can go back and forth in.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This was literally the commercial back in the 80s.

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