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[–] [email protected] 150 points 1 year ago (3 children)

(Not you OP, you = governments)

You want to block corporate social media sites as propaganda

I want to block corporate social media sites because they’re parasites on society.

We are not the same.

[–] [email protected] 64 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Im actually quite upset that lawmakers havent used this to pass generalized privacy protection.

They have an opportunity to end mass survailance, but thats OK if its US survailance

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

Our tools of social connection vs their tools of propaganda.

Now fill in the possessive pronouns with either country and change them depending on the specific tool used.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

Because the US government is more interested in picking who can spy on us for fun and profit, not whether anyone should.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to block them because they are both

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[–] [email protected] 131 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Ooh... i dont think the tankies will like this!

[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago

Oh no anyway

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago

Its hilarious the instance the tankies most frequent is banned in china

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 1 year ago (22 children)

They're technically not banning tiktok, they're banning China from owning tiktok

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Which is somehow even worse : it's like only the USA is allowed to spy on everyone!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They can still spy, but why would we make it easier for them?

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're functionally forcing the sale of the company to a US Firm at fire sale prices.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

This is primarily intended as a hostile buyout of tiktok. It has literally nothing to do with China.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

china blocked tiktok first

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I hate tiktok

but all these talks about keeping children off phones is restricting the flow of information to a point that it scares me. we have Enciclopedias in our pockets ffs.

if the bar kids from easily accessing the internet, they're effectively blocking 2mil people (14-17) from instant access to information. (I did some sleep deprived math, dont @me if its off)

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

A FORCED SALE IS NOT A BAN.

I've said this like a thousand times and I hate repitition, but the USA as a whole has never tried to ban TikTok. Trump claims he did, it isn't allowed for military servicemembers, but it has never been banned.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

But china doesnt claim to be a paragon of freedom unlike the united states. No one cares that china banned american social media becuase its expected. People care that america bans tiktok because its hypocritical.

Besides, tiktok isn't even "chinese", their government only has a 1% stake in the company while foreign investors(mostly american) hold 60% IIRC. Y'all can fact check me on that. This is an attempt by the American bourgeosie to force bytedance into being publicly traded so that Americans can have more sway over the companies decisions. This allows them to silence an alternative news source that often conflicts with their interests or make a shit ton of money if they give in and opem up to public trading.

The American bourgeosie is nervous about actually facing competition on the online market place. They've dominated it so long thanks to silicone valley and they got used to it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I wholly agree with you first paragraph.

But the 1% stake the Chinese government has in ByteDance is a golden share.

From The Economist:

More stunning are the terms of these investments. ciif’s 1% stake in a ByteDance subsidiary gives it the power to appoint one of three board members in a unit that holds key licences for operating its domestic short-video business.

To what extent the CCP will exert control or what ByteDance has agreed to is unclear. And who knows if any of that matters.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The U.S. doesn’t claim to be a paragon of freedom for the CCP or Chinese-owned and operated enterprises lmao

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

I love these winnie pooh memes

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So by blocking apps we'll be more like China? Great point!

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (16 children)

It’s not being more like China. It’s treating them the way they treat us. Simple reciprocity. The same thing is often done when other countries level a tariff against our products.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Oh look... the liberals are at it again.

Your whataboutism doesn't change the fact that the west's claims of valuing "press freedom" turning out to be completely false posits severe implications for your ideology, liberal - not anyone's living in China.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (4 children)

You're not communicating your point very well. Do you mean like neoliberal liberal or like fox news liberals?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's on lemmy. He def means "non-tankies"

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“non-tankies”

Perhaps it's best not to use terms you don't understand, liberal.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Honestly the brain dead obvious political move outside of monied interests is strong legislation to protect peoples information.

But we won’t see that

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Well, do you want to be like China in that regard?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Ah yes let's copy China. Progressive

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Imagine blocking TikTok for being a competitor in a so called free market under the guise of national security and privacy

They didn't blink an eye when Facebook had to testify about blatantly abusing COPPA and doing the exact same thing.

And not even the platform itself, just the company so it can be liquidated or sold to an American megacorp so it can make money for the poor shareholders and let the NSA do their funny PRISM plugin.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

The same could be said of the US. GAFAM works for the US just like TikTok works for China. I'd like to see the reaction of the US if the EU told Meta to sell the European branch so they "can't spy on EU citizens".

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

TikTok is literally a weapon created and used to undermine the USA (among other democracies but mainly USA) and to brainwash its citizens. Anyone who doesn't see it is a useful idiot who bought into Chinese propaganda.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My self hosted DNS does all of that banning too. But that's just my little quality of life thing (and whatever little that does fighting the global data overlords).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The fine line between "I don't want to do the thing" and "I don't want you to be able to do the thing".

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