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[–] [email protected] 172 points 1 year ago (7 children)

CDs are just digital files plus waste. Vinyl is a musical ritual.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (42 children)

CD is still the only way to buy a digital popular music in most countries.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't forget digital music stores like Qobuz and www.bandcamp.com.

Artists get more money when you buy their music outright instead of stream it.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Bandcamp was bought by Epic Games, who fired half the staff and sold off the remainder to some kind of nebulous music licencing platform. I wouldn't cheer them on much longer, I see dark days ahead.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Seriously? Fucking hell, that's depressing.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Vinyls break easily and sound kinda meh, even with decent equipment. CDs have fairly good quality and are easy to store and handle. Honestly I get why people like vinyl, big discs are fun and tinkering with analog stuff is its own hobby, but when it comes to collecting I prefer CDs.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

CDs are digital files plus ownership.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once you download a music file, nobody is taking it away from you.

And CDs can have DRM just like any other digital media.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

No, a CD that carries the actual CD logo cannot have DRM. It is true that the music industry has often pushed 'enhanced' formats that look like CDs that do; SACD, for example.

Ownership is different to possession, and I want to actually own my music, not just possess the files.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago

I'm glad I saved my CDs, as I was able to rerip them to FLAC and undo the mistake my juvenile self made of ripping to WMA. I still keep the CDs to play in my car from time to time

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

While I agree with you, I still want to be able to buy CDs.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 year ago (24 children)

What is everyone's opinions on the sound quality of vinyl?

I understand the collectibility of physical media, and the novelty of owning a vinyl and the machine that plays them. The large art piece that is the case (and often the disc itself). Showing support for your favorite artists by owning physical media from them.

Those are great reasons to collect vinyl.

But a lot of my friends claim vinly is of higher audio quality than anything else, period. This is provably false, but it seems to be a common opinion.

How often have you seen this and what are your thoughts on it?

[–] [email protected] 59 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Technically CD quality digital is superior, but the recording and mixing can have a lot to do with it. For example, it could be that an decades old Dark Side Of The Moon on vinyl (played on proper equipment) could sound better than a modern remastered CD with maximized loudness (See the "loudness wars").

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not impossible, although the loudness wars are pretty much over nowadays. All major music services and players have volume normalisation, many by default, so there's not much point to it any longer.

Also it's pretty tough to find a decades old record still in mint condition, and the sound quality of vinyl gets worse every time you play it.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I know it's not highest quality.

For me, the imperfect sound is what makes a nicer experience. Slight hum, little pop once in a while, teensy skip, etc.

Not to mention that I'm far more inclined to listen to an entire album because of the need to interact with the vinyl to set the needle and flip sides.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

Vinyl has a slow progression in quality degradation due to friction that creates a certain kind of sound warmth that is pleasing to our ears. This can also be relicated digitally, but the imperfections and feelings associated with the physical ritual actions of loading a record can't.

Vinyl just has more engagement going on despite the sound quality being lower. Kind of like how some people have fondness for fireplaces despite central heating being technically better at maintaining a warm temperature.

Some people confuse the extra engagement with sound quality because a lot of people just don't think things through.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The best explanation I've seen is that music is mixed differently for CD/streaming and vinyl.

For mass market, the move has been to mix for louder bass and similar things. The idea being that it makes the music more popular. But it also makes it difficult to appreciate anything but the bass.

On vinyl, you can't max out bass like that, it won't work on the format. So they have to give it a normal mix instead, making it sound better. In theory CDs should sound better than vinyl, but because of the music production trends, it doesn't currently.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And I bet horse carriages outsold the Ford Model-T this year too

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago

Because CD is a medium for data shrinking in popularity and vinyl is a token of being cool growing in popularity, of course it does.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I want to know what “other” is that is also clobbering CDs. Can’t say it’s streaming because it’s physical media. The article mentions that half a million cassettes were sold, but that doesn’t really answer the question. That “other” takes up a lot of space relative to CDs so I’m pretty curious.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I dug into the RIAA Source PDF the article references for what "other" means:

"Includes CD Singles, Cassettes, Vinyl Singles, DVD Audio, SACD"

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago

I knew piracy was eating into music sales but poor artists and distributors only generating less than $2 of revenue in the US per year? That’s like 1 CD in a clearance sale. They should start a charity.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (18 children)

If you’re curious, nearly half a million cassettes sold last year, too, according to Billboard.

I'm more curious about who's still selling music on cassette and who's willing to buy it.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Wow. What is that ‘other’ physical medium? Is MiniDisc also coming back and beating CDs?

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Vinyl, which tends to be pricier than the newer format, also far outstripped CDs in actual money made, raking in $1.4 billion compared to $537 million from CDs.

Vinyl is definitely overpriced these days. I do love all the art and care that artists seem to put into their vinyl releases, but typically I'm spending $30-$50 on a new vinyl release. But what am I going to do? Not buy that limited edition colored vinyl gatefold with art and lyric pages?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Hipsters paying 2-3x as much for a vinyl LP which objectively has worse audio quality than a CD.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

This is dumb. Just going to be used for collectors editions with different songs and shit.

To each their own I guess.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

One of my favorite things about vinyl is having to flip the record over. I think it demands more active and respectful listening.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (15 children)

I was thinking about investing in a vinyl player recently and was really sad to learn Vinyl is actually worse for audio quality. The standard thickness of the disk is a physical limitation for frequencies which means the sound gets "squished."

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A whole $1.91!! Wow!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (41 children)

Vinyls are great, but I can't copy them to my phone so I still have to buy a CD with it.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't really buy vinyl to listen to it, but for the larger cover art and liner notes

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (14 children)

Only a few more years now till the retro sound of CDs comes back into style. I realize vinyl is a great and unique user experience with a specific timber, and more enjoyable to collect.

It's kind of funny when you hear about the "analog warmth" when albums were being digitally mastered as early as the late 70s... And pretty much all re-releases are digitally remastered.

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