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If you didn't vote then you voted. Got it.
Correct. If you didn't vote then you are spineless, a coward and lack any morals. You saw fascism coming and ignored what everyone said and then decided that it wasn't worth the bare minimum effort of voting.
If you did not cast a ballot and you were eligible to do so then the things I want to say to you would get me banned from lemmy and probably arrested.
Not correct, if you didn't vote you didn't vote period.
People saying and persuading others to vote for murderers with blood on their hands are much bigger spineless coward with no morals.
Inaction is still a choice, so not voting means you're ok with this. Voting or not voting, you still made your choice in November and here we are.
That's the most bullshit argument to justify your shitty choices and is textbook DARVO. Not voting for the lesser murderer means we get an even bigger one who will actively increase the suffering, and it's hilarious to me how you're trying to pretend that voting to prevent more genocide is cowardly. But cowards love to pretend they're not cowards and blame others when they don't have the stones to make hard decisions. And lol, using morality to justify letting trump genocide people home and abroad shows you have none.
The choice not to support a rigged as fuck system that needs to go for the sake of humanity. You are not supposed to vote for any murderer of any scale under any circumstances. When the choice is between two murderers it's time for plan B
Was plan B sitting on your hands?
Plan B is not support the government
So somewhere between doing absolutely nothing to armed revolution. How enlightening.
Anything you do that is not supporting the government is better than supporting it.
That's still a choice though.
You sound like one of the idiots my grandfather tried to warn in Germany in the 1920s before he got the fuck out and came to America on forged papers on a Japanese fishing boat
And you sound like an idiot using a poor comparison to defend scum as bad as the nazis.
So lemme get this straight. The Democrats are the Nazis here, not the people literally throwing up a seig heil?
You really have no say in this conversation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Globke
Most governments around the world are ruled by villains consumed by greed and lust of power. If you support and fuel a genocide you are bad on pairs as nazi regardless of your country or political agenda. The government of israel by definition can't be nazi but they are committing crimes as the nazi were.
As said, you have no say in this conversation.
Nope. It is dead correct. If you were eligible to vote and you did not vote then you should feel horrible. You should feel attacked. You should feel like everyone hates you. They do. You decided that fascism wasn't important enough to vote against. You decided to go "Well both sides suck" when one side was actively planning genocide and destruction of the United States.
You do not get to have a say. Why? Because you didn't vote. You decided not to use your voice so guess what? You don't get to have one here.
You can try to blame people who didn't vote the red and blue party as much as you want but they are not going to feel horrible because they didn't support any murderer. You seem to be projecting a lot of resentment perhaps deep down you don't feel happy about your choice?
See previous comment.
You don't vote? You don't get to have a say in the conversation. You have willingly silenced yourself for the next 4 years. So sad for you.
I mean my vote hasn't mattered in the last 2 elections. My state hasnt flipped blue since Obama. There's a lot of situations where voting is a waste of time. Making that not be true is what's going to increase voter turnout, not trying to shame them for something they're not responsible for
And if everyone in your state who thought that actually decided to vote then it might have actually made an impact.
See previous message.
K. That doesn't explain your nonsense about "If you didn't vote then you voted".
It literally does. Your reading comprehension skills are not my problem.
It's not my reading comprehension that's at issue here, it's your abilities with basic logic.
Ratio says otherwise. You are getting hammered with downvotes because you can't grasp the simple concept that I put forward.
Ooh, "I'm popular so I'm right". Yep, you have a major problem with logic.
Man, you have just actively avoided logic at every possible opportunity here. You're just burying your head in the sand and screaming that everyone else is wrong. The downvotes isn't because i'm popular, it is because you have no idea what you're talking about. Have fun with that, I'm done wasting time on you. There's no point in having a conversation with you if you're just going to divorce yourself from reality like a Trump or Pollievre voter.
Have fun with the bed you made. You aren't worth a single second more of my time.
I avoided logic? Aren't you the person who claimed "if you didn't vote then you voted"?
See previous comments. Once again, your reading comprehension skills aren't my problem. If you can't understand, then just go away. In either case? I'm not wasting anymore time on you. Either you are incapable of grasping an extremely simple concept that everyone else has grasped or you're just a troll. At any rate, you have a negative value in my life and aren't even remotely worth the effort. Nothing can be gained when you are acting this way. You will never add anything of value. You have no worth in this conversation when you cannot follow along and I do not have the time, patience, or crayons to explain it to you.
Not engaging is also a choice, a very shit one in this case. You either contributed -1, 0, or +1 to a fascist takeover, sure 0 might be better than +1 but taking a neutral stance against such a dogshit prospect really puts the chair in armchair revolutionary, and doesn't make you much better than the cheeto worshippers.
Not voting at minimum makes you more dumb than MAGA... At least they understand voting can bring changes.
True, and that's despite most of them believing it's rigged anyway lmao
Both sides were pro-genocide, you need a multi-party system
We do. But until then, everything they said stands.
Imagine saying that with a straight face with one side has just declared they want to very actively partake in the genocide and just do the job themselves.
This is like saying giving a murderer a knife is the same as going in with a machine gun yourself.
I know you're trying to be profound here, but in this case, it is exactly the same. Genocide Joe very reliably delivered WMD's to Israel during his term in full knowledge that it was a vastly unpopular decision, up until his last day. The news reported something like 80 people killed in the days between the signing of the ceasefire and Biden leaving office.
Whether it's the US or Israel doing the ~~squatting~~ "settling" in Gaza, the results are the same. Biden and Trump diverge in minor ways, but unfortunately Israel doesn't appear to be one of them.
Minor ways? Are you fucking serious?
I am.
Biden's presidency was so similar to the prior one that millions of workers who'd voted previously didn't even see the point in going to the polls.
People like you, are why I moved away.
Sure you could just be another Russian troll.
But I knew way too many fucking idiots like you in real life too years ago as to know there's a good chance that you're not a troll.
The only consolidation I have is that dumbasses like you will suffer along with the rest, even if not as much as you deserve compared to those who knew better.
Thank you for conclusively proving you have literally no idea what you're talking about. You are what is wrong with America. You are not educated.
"Genocide Joe" wasn't able to stop sending bombs. When Trump stopped sending military aid to Ukraine he was impeached. Why? Because it is illegal to impede a congressional approval. It was congress that approved the weapons to Israel. Biden had literally no choice. The most he could do, which he did, was stop the bombs from being sent for longer and longer periods. Put them in areas where they had to be inspected because it was the only thing he could do. Slow it down.
And here you are screaming that he should have stopped sending anything, concretely proving that you have fallen for every scrap of propaganda.
Congratulations. You're a useful idiot.
OP is saying +1 = 0.
You're complicit in the result, correct.
That's not what OP said. He said not voting is voting.
Silence is consent when it comes to politics. Always has been; always will be.
Is consent the same as voting for something?
Did you do anything to stop the violent ego maniac in the White House? No? Then you've cooperated with him.
Ok, now explain how not voting is voting.
Abstaining affects the outcome as much as voting does.
As much? Are you sure about that?
I'm pretty sure they mean half as much.