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Luigi Mangione, charged with the December 2024 murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, released his first public statement through a new website launched by his defense team.

He expressed gratitude for widespread support and acknowledged the letters he has received. The website provides case updates and a fundraiser, which has raised over $400,000.

Mangione has gained a following among those frustrated with the U.S. healthcare system. A poll found 41% of voters under 30 viewed the assassination as acceptable.

His next court date is Feb. 21.

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[–] [email protected] 180 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Still dont get it why he is still charged over somthg he obviously didnt do. Is justice sociale bad in the US, why people dont react. Like O.J. Simpson case but in reverse, everybody knows Luigi is not guilty...

[–] [email protected] 88 points 3 months ago (1 children)

These images could be false leads just as much as Luigi could be a false arrest. People assume these pictures are "the guy" just because they were presented first.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Do you realise that the assassination has been recorded? Guy on the left is the suspect.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We don't have all the evidence.

If he checked into the hostel with the same ID that was used to get the bus out of the city and they weren't his identity, then there is the manifesto that may or may not have been planted in the gun that may or may not have been planted. Then there's the manifesto in substack from before the event, well before the event.

Together that's probably enough for a trial.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 months ago

I dont get why he made himself look like the suspect, but reality is that its not him. The record of the assassination clearly shows a smaller dude with differents eyebrows, eyelash and skin color. Just like OJ Simpson, there was no doubt it was him, yet he was found innocent over petty details...

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (15 children)

He has not once said he didn’t do it has he? I think this whole conspiracy theory like most is silly.

Yeah he did it, that’s why he’s a hero.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Being the devil's advocate here, but he could have discarded the grey bag and grabbed a black bag with more normal stuff. This image doesn't quite support the statement. There must be other, more powerful evidence of his innocence.

[–] [email protected] 86 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Nah.

That's not how this shit works homie.

Luigi doesn't have to prove his innocence, the prosecutor has to prove he's guilty beyond reasonable doubt...

Like, you're literally completey opposite of reality with your statement. So in a way you couldn't be more wrong

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Kinda, there's a lot more play here than want you two are talking about.

Prosecution has:

  • an online substack manifesto from well before the event and probably internet archive to prove the date.
  • A copy of or electronic records of a fake name and ID used to book a hostel in the city.
  • Maybe video of him entering that hostel
  • A copy of an or electronic records of a fake name and ID used to book travel out of the city
  • Him on video getting off the bus from New York City.
  • A likely image of him unmasked in the area and being at the scene in like (If not exact) clothing
  • They have a manifesto "found" with him self incriminating and apologizing

Now, He's innocent until proven guilty, But that is not to say that he doesn't need to disprove all this mountain of evidence against him if he is going to get off based on evidential findings. You don't have to prove your innocence, But he's going to have to Make a shadow of down and face of overwhelming evidence.

But honestly between you me and a couple hundred thousand of our best friends here, I suspect there's not a chance in hell of him getting off in that way. It's going to be jury nullification or something spectacular, or he's getting life.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (11 children)

The burden of proof is on the prosecution in America.

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[–] [email protected] 45 points 3 months ago

There must be other, more powerful evidence of his innocence.

That's not how the justice system is supposed to work.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Bruh... Its not about the backpack, its not the same face, at all... Eyebrows and color skin are completly different. And on the full body pic of the suspect we Can see the suspect IS way smaller than Luigi...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Lighting changes skin tone a lot, and jackets cover up the build of the body. I'm not saying for sure it is him, but I also am not sure this disproves it being him.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

So do image processors and different camera sensors.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

WTF?!? Its like saying Jacky Chan looks like Bruce Lee... We may not see much, but the upper face is clearly different, except if you are blind, there should be any doubt. The suspect is clearly Irish like (North Europe) while Luigi is clearly italian like (South Europe)...

Ironically it does seems that american are dumb enough to believe this shit... US is fucked up...

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Look at the jackets. The suspect has a jacket that has a hood made of the same material and appears in this image to be a pullover. Luigi has a hood that is a different material than jacket and appears to be a zip up.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

OK, to play devil's advocate, if it wasn't Luigi in the picture, who was it? For what purpose was Luigi in town? I understand that in the legal system, the defense doesn't need to PROVE who else did it and that they just need to create reasonable doubt... but what's your take?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 months ago (1 children)

if it wasn't Luigi in the picture, who was it?

What are you looking for here? A name? How would we know?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Well, if it wasn't Luigi, then who was it? Why would someone go through the trouble of finding someone that looks just like him? Who would that be... why was Luigi picked for a scapegoat? If the contention of OP is "Luigi isn't the guy"... then who is? From my standpoint, Luigi had the means, the motive and the motivation due to his personal history and abilities.

I realize that in court his defense won't have to say "we have proof it was this other guy" but I'm not in court right now. If OP doesn't think Luigi did it, then who else would have?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Any of a million other people. For Luigi's case, it doesn't matter who did it. Luigi didn't, end of discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Any of the other millions upon millions of people and their families that UHC has intentionally harmed/killed?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Make up your own mind based on the facts and their justifications, but the reason the rules are like that in court is because punishing people for crimes they didn't commit is injustice, even if you don't ever find the actual culprit.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I think maybe they played too much Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, wherein the defendant is guilty until proven innocent AND you identify the actually guilty party. Yes, really. You still lose in that game even in the event that you can definitively prove your client's innocence if you don't also turn in the actual culprit. That's how this guy thinks the justice system should work.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

So he just happened to have a gun on him in Pennsylvania that coincidentally matched the ballistic evidence in Manhattan?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Let me see the footage of the arrest. Dept desperate to "get their perpetrator" often do desperate things, can't be having the ruling class be murdered and nobody being punished for it now can we?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You talk like the police never planted evidence before.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (4 children)

So the Altoona Pennsylvania police who made the arrest just happened to plant the evidence for the NYPD? Lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Yes? Why would that be surprising

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (2 children)

What I want to know is - where is Luigi's workshop?

That kind of 3D printed gun isn't just something you can print off at the library and start blasting. Even for a skilled 3D printing expert with a workshop full of plastic and metal working tools, you're looking at months of prototyping, printing, fitting, testing out prototypes at a gun range, etc. It is possible for skilled crafters to build an untraceable gun from a 3D printed frame and pieces ordered off the net. But it's nothing like just hitting "print" and having a gun.

This is what really gets me. Luigi was apparently living as a drifter for the last year or so. His family had been trying to get in touch with him. A hostel is not the place where you're going to be able to make a 3D printed gun. You need a workshop, and one that you can operate in with a high degree of privacy for an extended period of time.

So, again, where is Luigi's workshop? 3D printed guns don't just materialized from nowhere. If Luigi made the gun, he must have a workshop. Unless the police can show where that workshop is, I'm going to assume the gun was planted on him.

Where is Luigi's workshop?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Ok. Then you just transfer the chain back one level. Who did he buy it from? Think about the logistics of buying one of those. Imagine you wanted to buy a ghost gun. How would you actually go about doing that? Yes, organized crime rings and gangs may make these things, but they don't just sell them to any random kid who walks up wanting to buy one. They'll obtain them for their own trusted members. But if a random white kid shows up looking to buy a gun, the thought of most people would be that this guy is planning a school shooting. And no gang wants that type of heat.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Youtube channels get banned left and right for printing functional guns on their 10 year old printers. They usually don't design them themselves but download them. The designs are made in a way that you can built them at home.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Security camera footage that shows where the assassin dumped the gun and backpack, suppress the footage, have chatGPT whip up a manifesto, pin it on some guy with a similar nose.

Like, seriously, when's the last time you saw a cop outside of a cop T.V. show? Are we still pretending they have the publics best interests at heart?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago

Just because that's what the police said doesn't make it true. Police are known liars and have been caught countless times arresting the wrong person, planting evidence, and/or lying to get an arrest and make themselves not look as inept as they are.

The police need to punish someone. If a crime has been committed, that's a bonus. If they are punishing the preparator of the crime, that's a double-bonus. If they can murder you, they get a paid vacation while the union takes care of the paperwork.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

All I know is he was at my place that night, so couldn't have been him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

This is a better take than conspiracy shit tbh. Personally, I was ice skating with the guy.