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Obvious as it may sound, people with authoritarian beliefs hiding behind free speech actually consider it as a weakness akin empathy. It allows losers like them to amplify their reach despite not being in power. They abandon their "free speech absolutist" postures the moment they think they are in power.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

When our opponents say: "Yes, we used to grant you freedom of opinion", yes. You did, that is no reason why we should do the same to you! Your stupidity need not be contagious to us! [Laughter.] That you have given this to us - that is proof of how stupid you are! [Laughter.]

  • Joseph Goebbels
[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Goebbels must have felt really clever when he killed his children and wife. Right Goebbels?

Goebbels? (Gore)

Oh.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A better fate than what he deserved, IMO.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unfortunately he was allegedly burned after his death

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

See? Better than what he deserved.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Reported for untagged gore. Blocked for being a shitbag troll.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Mod here: Nah, that stays up.

You just sear that image into your brain and think about it every time you hear the word Nazi, remember what they did to human beings (even their own).

If you haven't seen them, look up pictures of the holocaust because those horrors should never be forgotten.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

To be fair, the gore part I kinda understand. How do I tag a comment with gore? I mean he could have told me himself but he was so scared of what I might reply, he blocked me.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hide it as a spoiler that is titled what it is and that it has gore.

deep fried goebbels (gore)Pretend there was gore here

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

but also, and im not a mod of anything and this would probably get you banned a lot of places:

nazi shit needs to be shown for what it is. no more looking away. a century of looking away and pretending it couldn't happen here, that it wasn't happening here, that it was just about 'ethics in games journalism' or whatever bullshit is what got us here. show that shit.

if we keep looking away, we will keep letting it happen. I would rather see a few old photos of gore a bunch of times than have to smell them, or risk being them, every time I go outside. a state of affairs which we are perilously fucking close to.

edit: so please; post more gore. you might just be saving lives!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I completely agree with you. And I want to make one thing clear: I hope Goebbels, or any other Nazis, last hours on earth have been agonisingly painful in every form possible. Seeing them crispy makes me happy.

But, and this is a pretty big but, there are people out there who lost loved ones in fires and stuff like this might trigger them and cause unnecessary pain. While “humans well done” don’t bother me much, there are topics that drive me up the wall especially when it comes out of nowhere.

So while I can at least understand where (whatever his name was, I honest to god already forgot about him) their reaction came from, I also think it is important to show people the horrors of the last century. Because like you already said, politely talking about it in a SFW fashion clearly didn’t work.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

like I said; I have watched the body of someone I loved disintegrate with their brain still at least partially functional in one of the most horrible ways a person can die. I think a lot of being precious about this shit comes from not having actually been exposed to it, and relying on your imagination.

like, PTSD from actual experiences is real, but outside of burned-in combat PTSD where your survival instincts and/or training are looped in, it's never as simple as you would think.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Fuck you. This shit is traumatic for me. had family members murdered by the actual Nazis. Blocked you and this shithole community.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know that's a Nazi in the pic, right?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He doesn’t. But now nobody can tell him. Because he blocked everyone 😔

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, the holocaust was an extremely traumatic event, that's the whole point.

I'm not whitewashing history for you, sorry.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would have reported the pic for gore, but I think hiding it under spoiler is fair game. What humanity should have learned from this story is that just because ideologies that consider fairness or empathy a weakness might appear viable and effective to grab power quickly, we have plenty of gory evidence that they do lead to the annihilation of millions, including those initially benefiting from them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A spoiler would be OK by me, but I would still encourage everyone to look at what they did if they have not seen it. Visit a holocaust museum even. Frankly, I don't know that everyone understands, there are an increasing number of people who downplay or outright deny the horrors of World War II and everything that led to it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

yeah but what if it makes me uncomfortable, so I would rather look away and let it happen again, and you're a big dumb meanie-pants for putting evidence of the consequences of my actions where I can see them? what then, huh?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

hey, yeah, so, my people were also slaughtered by the nazis. some of the first, actually. and again by reaganites. I have watched loved ones die slowly and horribly with my own eyes in non-nazi-related deaths. like actually seen smelled touched it, not just heard stories from grandma.

and I would rather see this shit if it reminds people the stakes of current politics. also, that's a nazi in the pic, it just happens it also got kiled because of nazi shit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Sorry to hear about your family.

If the world is going to blatantly ignore history, then the atrocities should become more abundantly available as a reminder. Censoring history is re-writing it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I had great uncles and an aunt I never got to meet because of Nazis. This picture is soothing, being a reminder of what happens to all Nazis. They all die. Every single one of them is removed before their time. It's comforting to know that this too shall pass.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

You might be interested in History of Everything's video, "How? How educated people commit genocide". It is available for free, uncensored, at his Patreon. This is history that should be remembered, so that it can't be repeated.

How? How educated people commit genocide

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

never cry over spilled nazi.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What's the story here? I thought Goebbels was among those tried at Nuremberg

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Search: goebbels death -> Goebbels Wikipedia article:

In the mid-afternoon of 30 April, Hitler shot himself. [...] On the evening of 1 May, Goebbels arranged for an SS dentist, Helmut Kunz, to inject his six children with morphine so that when they were unconscious, an ampule of a cyanide compound could be then crushed in each of their mouths. [...] At around 20:30, Goebbels and [wife] Magda left the bunker and walked up to the garden of the Chancellery, where they killed themselves. There are several different accounts of this event. [I've omitted contradictory claims of how they died and were treated after by SS soldiers] The corpses were then doused with petrol, but they were only partially burned and not buried.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Thank you for that! I know you didn't have to do it, so I want you to know that I appreciate your effort.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think you confuse him with Göring.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That's why we have to treath them the same way they would treath us.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (3 children)

No, it doesn’t mean that. Think about what you are suggesting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No tolerance for the intolerant in a tolerant society. It has been thought about a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

Agreed, but that wasn't what the other comment demanded. If we treat other people like Nazis treat their victims, you are a Nazi yourself.

That Nazis do not get the benefit of the doubt or a public soapbox or platform is something I agree with and hopefully what the other commentator meant instead of executions and ovens. But it is important to not dehumanise Nazis and not stoop to their level. They are all too human, that is the problem.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Read the same story the other day. They missed Hitler's escalation believing he will never lie to such a point, until he did and then it was too late.

If someone has a dictatorship as a goal, you can't just fight under the democratic rules, especially if your system is not bullet proof.

I'm not saying "grab a gun", I'm saying there's not much time to act. Anyway, this gives me some hope:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20190513-it-only-takes-35-of-people-to-change-the-world

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

True. We should instead just use one bullet for each and be done with them, no point in copying their atrocities.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Remember that smile gave Moscow Mitch gave when they confirmed Trump’s lame duck Supreme Court nominee, despite rejecting Obama’s?