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Right...
Damn, I was hoping we wouldn't have your type around here.
Edit: I really should have quoted the other part, I think you softened the wording (slightly). I just hate the attitude of "blend in or stay out".
This is not how Canada operates. Canada isn't a melting pot.
The law is specifically about arbitrating the display of religious symbols in government institutions in order to enforce visible separation of church and state. It's not saying that Muslims have to adopt a different culture. Also, it could very well be unconstitutional. That remains to be seen but there's a high likelihood.
If you aren't considering what the downside of this type of law is, then I don't think you're engaging beyond stating your beliefs. Clearly there are problems with it and people have expressed them. And as I said it is likely to be found unconstitutional.
You aren't even Canadian, you are German. You quite literally don't even understand that Quebec is simply one region of Canada and their culture is different from the rest of us in many unique and important ways.
My apologies, I misread your previous comment to mean that you found this thread randomly from your front page, not that you are here because you used to live here.
Either way, you seem to have forgotten that what Quebec does on its own has nothing to do with the rest of us. They even have their own legal system.
I also dislike religion and I'm with you on how harmful it is (raised Catholic, 14 years of faith-based schooling). The problem is the broad assumption that every Muslim woman is being coerced and then using that (wrong) assumption to force other women to wear (or not wear) certain things.
I would love it if all religion just like, ceased to exist one day. But we're not there, so this law actually promotes religious oppression and, just like all other forms of oppression, I don't want that for people, especially not in Canada. I don't feel like banning head coverings actually eliminates the problem of coercion in Muslim communities.
I'm willing to admit that, yes, oppression of Muslim women is a problem within our borders (and Canadian women have been victim to honour killings on and off Canadian soil), but banning coverings doesn't solve that problem. Banning coverings solves one problem for some women and creates a problem for others. I don't think it's good policy and makes Quebecers look even more Islamophobic than they did before.
The Canada I believe in is a mixture of cultures and beliefs. Saying they should assimilate to our (white) ways conflicts with that.
Edit: to be clear, I'm obviously not for oppression of women, but that's not what it symbolizes to everyone. At a certain point they're old enough to make their own choices and if they feel better wearing one I prefer to respect that.
Secularism is forced atheism now?
Who are you to force women to wear less clothes?
You appear to be an expert on this. Surely you have conversed with many of these women and have not received all your knowledge from racist media figures.
The key word is some of them
Some people killed a person they love because of rejection so let's ban relationships and love
I am sure you have. I can hear the racism dripping on your keyboard.
You live in germany, who is the second biggest supporter of the terrorist state of israel occupying paledtine for 58 years
Shows your complete lack of morality
I am sure it's a minority just like muslims supporting rights suppression but many zionists demand to ban the fundamental right to protest because they feel "uncomfortable"
I am quite unshocked.
If people wearing a piece of cloth is enough for you to say they should be deported and you do not think there is anything wrong with it you are quite far gone.
People could be manipulated by emotions to do the worse things ever should we ban expressing emotions?
We never banned emotions with ban certain actions or hate speech. We can hate anyone we want but we can't harm them or disrespect them with actions or words
You emphasize "some" but do we have any data and real numbers?
Genuine curiosity, while recognizing this is hard to measure as a lot of oppression can be internalized.
It's not an easy discussion (and that's fine).
With your logic, western countries should stop talking about lack of human right in certain countries.
Irrelevant to this issue. I don't care if you have schoolboy trauma from not eating pork, get it out of this conversation. This is about Muslim women in Quebec, not snowflake Germans who want to spread conservative racist ideology.
Oh my god. And to what race do the majority of Muslims belong? What sorts of issues have been talked about in Quebec as of late? Oh, anti-immigration? I wonder how these concepts might relate politically...
Talking to racists is like talking to toddlers, they often deliberately refuse to follow basic logic.
https://www.legisquebec.gouv.qc.ca/en/document/cs/c-12#se:3
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disparate_impact
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_genocide
A province that respects human rights wouldn't do this.