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[–] [email protected] 92 points 1 month ago (4 children)

They need to organized this momentum into a proper party, maybe call it the labor party or the progress party. But most importantly they need to not be scared to use actural leftist rhetoric and appeal to class conscious workers.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Tbh I dont really take them seriously

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Bernie is already third party

Why does nobody know anything about American Politics, including the Americans...

[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 month ago

He's independent, meaning no party

Because hundreds of millions of dollars are spent to make real information seem as confusing and boring as possible

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Now, this? This is hilarious right here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Some people think independent is a party. Like the Independent Party. Pretty silly but yeah. That's why I changed from telling people I was independent to saying I'm unaffiliated with any party.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Disagree. There are a huge number of republican working class that need representation, and who are not the enemy.

The anti-1% party is a much more viable proposition than going left vs right.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Show me the conservative critique of billionaires. I know how that works on the left, but the right is about preserving power structures

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

billionaires Don't Share Our Values™️

QED

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Unless one of your values is to take wealth from those that don't share your values, this is not a critique that will lead to meaningful corrections. I guess that could be a conservative value, but now you're just doing identity politics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

There are a few Republican representatives that claim to be pro-union, which has gotten them into office. I don't know how much they can do when both parties have been generally anti-union.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't believe this is true, the right won the last election but people outside the 1% voted for Trump.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

You don't have to be the 1% to vote for them.

Leftism literally originates from replacing monarchy and aristocracy with democracy, fighting the 1% is leftism.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

The Democrats tried that, they tried appealing to the mythical "centrist conservative" and look where that got them, it has been proven to be a failing strategy. We dont need another "bipartisan" Democrat-like party, we need a workers party.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm trying to say that process is made by classifying voters in terms other than left/center/right.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are only two political classes, those who are class conscious and those who are not. It matters not what word they're called, only that as many people became class conscious as possible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't disagree with your definition, but I can't believe people who are not class conscious always vote republican.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Sometimes they vote Democrat

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I mean, I would love that, but if we start running a third party in national elections against the Democrats and Republicans from the left, the Republicans will win even more. If we can't get FPTP changed I'm afraid the only option I can see is to destroy and rebuild the Democrats.

Well I guess there's a possibility that when Trump dies the Republicans implode. I'd love to see it but their voters always toe the line. I think this time it will be whoever right wing media decides are the new bosses.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like Democrats, many Republicans are just voting for the "lesser evil" and aren't really loyal to their party. They just hate Democrats.

A new party sidesteps and allows those "lesser evil" Republican working class voters to jump ship. They will not ever vote for a Democrat, so stop being Democrats.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

This idea is so simple, and the idea of it changing the course of history would be such a dumb-timeline thing, that I am 100% convinced it would work.

It would give them the ability to talk some harsh shit on Democrats, which could work on some Republicans. But I'd still worry that the effectiveness of their propaganda machine and the tendency of conservatives to fall in line and do as they're told would spoil it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

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