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Okay but who's the one defining a protest as violent? You get enough people together and you're going to have some aseholes that damage property but are the minority. If chocolate can have 5% bugs, then protests should be able to have 5% violence and still be called peaceful.
Or heck, if people react when police instigate, should that be called a violent protest?
The same people who write the history books. History is written by the winners, and when they write those books the protests that led to them winning are written up as being non-violent. It's like "terrorists" vs. "freedom fighters". If they succeed, they get to write the history books and they're freedom fighters. If they lose, the other side writes the history books and they're terrorists.
Cops are great at making any protest violent.
I'll give you a hint, it rhymes with cocks
It's it wrong to throw rocks when people are shooting you with rubber bullets?
Socks?
Rocks.
Docks!
And Birkenstocks
Rocks?
The guys with Glocks? Agreed.
This is an important question. I believe the research in question defined movements by the predominant tactic used, even if there was a small amount of violence.
So protests like the anti-ICE ones in LA would probably count as non-violent in the research.
Edit: Here is a more recent work by the same author that more directly engages with some of the questions and criticisms that emerged from their initial work the BBC article is discussing.
https://www.annualreviews.org/content/journals/10.1146/annurev-polisci-051421-124128
History is written by the victors.
From the article
Violent protests seems to mean a violent campaign of armed, planned attacks.
I doubt that would include unplanned outbreaks of violence from people not organized for that purpose.
We can have a little violence. As a treat!
I don't want to ask about the chocolate
Are you arguing "it's just a few bad apples" in defense of protests?
This is awkward.
YES, protesters are freely associating members of the general public, whereas the police are vetted and trained professionals, payed by taxes to "uphold the law".
They should be held to a higher standard!
Well duh. Just was kind of funny.
I assume you’re comparing this to rhetoric around cops. Cops are ideologically and organizationally unified with top down command structure and they protect one another even in cases of wrongdoing or violence.
Most modern protests are just random people who chose to show up. These are totally different situations.
Of course they're totally different. But it's a funny comparison since the two groups are so related.
You're right. We should fire the bad protestors.
And end qualified protestor immunity!
Bravo. I laughed. I just thought the initial comparison was silly.
Soros HR is no joke!
/s
What is awkward is how you failed to realize how insanely dumb and context-free your logic is to come to such an assinine conclusion...
Or how you presume there's any conclusion or point. Just a silly observation. The two groups, protectors amd cops, are very related. It's just a silly comparison. I'm not arguing any actual point.
Sensitive bunch. I've literally agreed with ACAB for a long time.