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[-] [email protected] 205 points 1 week ago

Maybe your wife's choice of career has fuck all to do with how good of a person you are. Since she's not property and you don't control her, yeah?

[-] [email protected] 148 points 1 week ago

Who is downvoting this? Melania is a monster, but doing nude modeling has 0 to do with it. Attacking Trump through that is really gross. He has plenty of gross skeletons to go for, and Melania has actually objectionable actions, this meme is trash.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

It's not a judgement of Melania. It's a judgment of the type of guy who would have a nude model mail order bride as their 3rd trophy wife.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

If you see this post and you come and comment defending Trump or harassing Obama then it's a pretty safe bet you're a piece of shit, downvote and move along.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

If you read that comment and interpret it as defending Trump and not defending women's bodily autonomy, it's a pretty safe bet that you're a fucking moron.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

Imagine if I replied to yohr comment accusing you of being a men's rights abuser for only talking about women's autonomy.

Thats how fucking stupid the top level comment is.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

What in the actual fuck are you talking about?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

YES. YES! YOU UNDERSTAND IT! THATS HOW IT FEELS!

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Take your meds.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

No-one's defending Trump here.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Saying there is nothing wrong with the first lady of the united states posing naked for the entire world sure sounds like a defence of exactly 1 president ever recorded.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

They're defending her, not him.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 9 hours ago

That's not much better, she's basically Russian mafia.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

No one's saying she's not, they're defending just her decision to do nudes. Let's say the bad things about bad people. It's stupid to shame them for neutral things.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago

Let's shame them for everything that they shame others for, and then some.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

There is nothing wrong with ANY lady posing nude. It doesn't matter who she is. Fuck you and your puritanical, misogynistic bullshit trying to assert that there is something inherently wrong with a woman allowing others to see her naked body.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

Uh, you do realize that the meme isn't actually quoting Obama, right?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I think you missed the top level comment and replied to me instead. If not, you're a hypocrite.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Wut? It was very clearly not you I replied to. It's not like you can't look one comment up the thread lol.

[-] [email protected] 74 points 1 week ago

Yeah, shaming her for nude photos is pretty fucking weak and, imo, just detracts from any point you're trying to make

[-] [email protected] 42 points 1 week ago

Its even worse, because they're shaming him for her nude photos.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

I’ll shame him for any god damned thing I please.

You know who broadcast those news photos on national TV right after shitler won the last election? Putin.

Shitler hasn’t ever been big on dignity, but a few decades ago neither political party would have allowed a candidate whose spouse had such photos to run.

Yeah it’s a truly minor issue especially with how egregious everything else is these days, but it’s still a real and legitimate issue regardless of your feelings on sex work or equity or fairness.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

You know who broadcast those news photos on national TV right after shitler won the last election? Putin.

The billionaire war criminal who profited off the destruction of the USSR is also a misogynist, what's your point?

a few decades ago neither political party would have allowed a candidate whose spouse had such photos to run.

And you understand that was/is due to their misogyny right?

[-] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Yeah it’s a truly minor issue

Trump has done a lot of "truly minor issues"

[-] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago

Yeah it’s a truly minor issue especially with how egregious everything else is these days, but it’s still a real and legitimate issue regardless of your feelings on sex work or equity or fairness.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

My husband finally watched Billy Madison this year and I've been thrilled because I can finally reference this scene to my heart's content and he'll know what I'm taking about.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

Hilarious background category, in context

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

"no! when they go low we have to go high!" So high that we sail right over alleged high ground that we covet and allow morons to run the country!

if we are mean we are just as bad as those meanies that are ruining the country! logic-ally speaking of course! but seriously trumps wife is a literal prostitute.

[-] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

Yea. The misogynistic rhetoric really ruins this post.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

True. Pointing out a double standard has value, but they picked something imaginary instead of all the other criticisms that were directed at Obama and not Trump. Occupy Democrats has been consistently pretty crap tbh. Lots of twisted facts even if the spirit is in the right place.

[-] [email protected] 47 points 1 week ago

Nude modeling is morally neutral.

Hell, participating in ethically made hardcore porn is morally neutral.

Judging a woman for either is misogynistic. Judging that woman’s partner for her choices is even more misogynistic.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Except if a wife sticks with her husband through his terrible choices., judging her is not misogynistic at all. Isn’t this the same crowd that loves to say if you’re sitting at a table with nazis, you’re no better than a nazi?

[-] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

That's not what the meme is talking about. It shames her for nude photos, not for being a terrible person and sticking with her felon of a husband.

[-] [email protected] 22 points 1 week ago

Judging her for that is fine, not for her nude modeling.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

she met trump on one of epsteins meet and greet parties.

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

My take is that it's a rejection of the "high road" stance. That we have to be the better ones and don't stoop to their level. Nothing is off limits when Trump is attacking people. The high ground hasn't done anything positive. Besides that, people body shame Trump. His hair, his weight, his penis size. Call her a gold digging slut. There hasn't been rules for years.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

So we should reject the "high road" and start being mysogynistic? Not a fan. I'll gladly shame them with some choice words, but in ways that won't make me feel like I'm turning nazi myself.

[-] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago

Yes that's how we beat the awful people who control the world!

Nothing causes lasting and meaningful political change like going for the low hanging and bigoted fruits! Let's all be misogynistic for equality!

For the record, I don't advocate that shitlib "high road" (AKA do nothing but argue procedure and deliver empty sound bites while fascists gradually stamp down every right and liberty owed to all people) either.

Be vicious towards the fascists. But be specific about it. Tell them exactly why they're loathsome and what sort of treatment they deserve.

You don't accomplish anything by slut shaming the awful wife of a misogynistic monster. It's like mud wrestling with a pig.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago

Funny that we can reject the high-road when it comes to misogynistic or body shaming in our messaging, but not, say, when it comes to needlessly restraining actual action with norms and procedures that Republicans can and do break at every convenience.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago

I'm reasonable certain that OP, the lemmy shit poster, is not in fact a member of Congress.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yeah so we should all give in to the lowest common denominator and allow ourselves to be dragged backwards by idiots and fools who can't make compelling arguments.

Great advice /s

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

If you successfully move people over with puritanical talking points, the party or whatever will get more puritanical. It also makes it easier for the other side to dismiss or counterattack if the other side is not puritanical. In this situation, it would be better to commend her "sex-positivity" or alternative lifestyle, relying on the other side's dissapproval of such things, instead of framing it as "bad," which kind of concedes that point.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

Why is Melania a monster, exactly?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

She naked Trump?

Edit: I meant to swipe "married" but I'm leaving it

[-] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago

I think it’s more about the evangelical base and their extreme cope than necessarily about Melania, though being hypocritical to attack your out group is nothing new.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago

Yes, for me it's the hypocrisy of the base. Imagine if Michelle or Hillary had been listed on that website Melania was on and had their pictures circulating. Imagine if those families had decorated the White House with some gaudy shit. Like Obama said, "imagine if I had done any of that". The commenters are missing the point.

[-] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago

Relax. It's a yo mamma joke pointed at Trump and Melania.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

It's low-hanging fruit of the simple minded who can't make a compelling argument. Don't make excuses for misogyny just because the rhetoric is being used in your favor.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It's just wierd that the top comment was written like Obama made this meme and shared it.

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