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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know what the current laws are in each province, but we if we don't have them yet, we really need new laws that require

  1. Apartments/Condo's to install chargers if paid for by the renter/owner. This is obviously less ideal for apartments, and more about condo's, but it becomes a start for apartments as well. You could install a plug (not a charger) at an apartment and use your own charger which would at least reduce costs if you were going to stay a long time and weren't worried about being evicted for some reason.

  2. New builds must have at least X amount of 120v outlets available for parking spots at a bare minimum. Make them NEMA 5-20 outlets which give a few more amps and can charger the cars a little bit faster (10-12km/h vs 6-8km/h), but will also work with regular 5-15 plugs. Ideally, also require some 30amp or 50amp plugs, but we gotta start somewhere at least.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seriously, the 120v everywhere is a big step, afaik you'll get 8-10 km per hour on a standard wall plug (depends on model obviously) just plugging in wall at work for the day would more than recoup the charge needed to get to work for most people. We still need some fast chargers but slow charging is totally practical for how most people use their vehicles every day, need to change your mindset to keep it topped up instead of refill when empty like ICE, but it's totally doable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know about other manufactures, but on a LR Tesla you'll get 7km/h. I think 10 would probably be pushing it for others, but that's where the NEMA 5-20 with 20amp wiring (which is common practice now) would make the big difference.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm probably over remembering, but even 5 km/hour would do for a lot of commutes if you could slow charge at home and work, just at home would go a long way to push needing to go to a charging station.

I'm totally in favour of higher amp circuits being available, just thinking that there's not as big of a barrier as some people suggest there is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I looked it up once and the average Canadian/USA commute (at least in non winter weather) can be done on a 120v 5-15 outlet.

Harsher winters would probably need the 5-20 outlets (or indoor parking) to maintain that level though.

Edit: and ya having charging at work would make the winters better as it adds an extra 8 hours of charging you'd lose otherwise.