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    [–] [email protected] 99 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I stopped using Windows over a decade ago and Padme is right. My windows using friends are always mad about some change or another and I'm just chill as a cucumber.

    [–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I feel a sense of ownership over my OS. I tinker, I experiment, I break things and sometimes I fix them.
    I still get mad, but it's our problem. We got here together and I know that we can do better.
    Windows feels like renting. The landlord only shows up when I'm not ready, fixes stuff that wasn't broken, doesn't fix any of the things that I need fixed, keeps raising the rent and installing hidden cameras. If I want to fix anything, it costs way more, is way harder because the landlord won't tell me where anything is, gets un-fixed every time the landlord visits, and after all that it's just fixing someone else's house.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

    I like that comparison a lot. Thanks for sharing.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    This is the first time I've ever wanted a reward system on any social media platform. Sure, I've used Steam rewards and such because they're there. I put emojis on chat messages, etc.

    ..but this comparison you made is pure gold.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

    I have never heard a more apt description of Windows. You have a way with words.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (4 children)

    In my last job I had colleagues using Windows, and they were super chill. When they turned on their computer in the morning, it took 20 minutes to boot, install the latest updates and log on. I had to start working right away, while they were having their third coffee and second cigarette, waiting for their computer to get ready. I'm sure it wasn't healthy, but relaxing.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    That sounds like poor IT policies to me. In previous office jobs I've had, our computers were configured with our working hours and we wouldn't shut them down at the end of the day, so that any updates could happen off the clock and minimize that sort of disruption.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Depends on your perspective, I'm sure the guys who got a 30 minute on the clock break weren't complaining about poor IT policies lol

    I've done something similar, "Oh shit, gotta take a break boss, computer decided it wanted to update, fuckin windows amirite?"

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

    Padme is right. My windows using friends are always mad about some change or another and I'm just chill as a cucumber.

    I'm very much not-chill for a variety of reasons. Mainly because it's a prime example of what's been made abundantly clear the last couple of years: once you get users on your platform, they will never leave, regardless of how much abuse you throw at them.

    For another, there's a stupid idiom that goes around all the time that goes something along the lines of "if you don't like it, don't buy/use/do it!" as if their decisions don't affect your personal choices. A prime example is headphone jacks on phones. Linux has the potential to be so much more useful with even a miniscule fraction of the funding (like 0.001%) that companies like MS and Apple have.

    It's incredibly frustrating asking people to consider doing something in their own best interests and being mocked and ridiculed in return or even listening to them excuse and defend their abusers.

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    [–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Actually you still absolutely do, since Microsoft has in the past, and probably still, actively sabotaged the ability to run other operating systems on gener computation devices.

    [–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Back in the 90s, before the DOJ v Microsoft antitrust trial, Microsoft's licensing terms with OEMs required them to pay MS for every unit sold β€” even units that did not come with Windows. This meant that if Dell or HP or whoever wanted to offer Linux as an option, they'd still need to pay Microsoft for Windows or else lose the ability to sell Windows at all. It made no sense to offer Linux PCs at that point.

    Just one of many many examples of Microsoft's illegal anti-competitive behaviors.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Groklaw still around? It has tons of anti trust details archived.

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    [–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I used to be angry at Microsoft. Now I'm angry at Microsoft, Red Hat and Canonical.

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Red Hat

    No, you're angry at IBM. When news of the IBM acquisition broke, sector veteran colleagues I'm close with moaned and groaned that IBM was sure to do something to piss everyone off again, which was apparently their habit a couple decades back. Sure enough, they could not have been more accurate in their assessment.

    Turns out IBM is three hot messes in a trenchcoat and always has been. Hence why they have already lost the Quantum wars and likely the GenAI wars as well. One AI vet I know says they're posed to even lose the AI war altogether, which is pathetic given the groundwork provided by Watson alone.

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

    Turns out IBM is three hot messes in a trenchcoat and always has been.

    International, business, and machines?

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

    And amazon, apple, meta, nvidia, half the gaming industry, ...

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I don't care what Microsoft does any more it's their OS. What really grinds my gears is the fact that people are so complacent and just down right fuckin submissive to a corporate entity

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    So am I but windows isn’t a good domme

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

    Safety words are ignored as a matter of policy.

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    [–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    This is the same with everything. Twitter, Google, Facebook, Netflix, Amazon, Apple etc. They all shit on their users, people complain but then they just accept it. As long as people just keep sucking it up they'll continue to do what they want.

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Yeah it pisses me off the way people are like "tech bros ruined the internet". No, users ruined it! There was no reason to stop self-hosting webpages, forums and IRC servers. Users switched to Facebook instead because they preferred it and didn't care about the downsides. There's an alternative to every website and app which respects privacy, serves no ads, and has no algorithm to farm your outrage. Users refuse to use them because they aren't cool enough.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Users switched to Facebook instead

    It's more like: those who couldn't be bothered to make and maintain their own site, went to normie platforms.

    You still have stuff like http://geekring.net/

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

    Yeah it pisses me off the way people are like β€œtech bros ruined the internet”. No, users ruined it! There was no reason to stop self-hosting webpages, forums and IRC servers. Users switched to Facebook instead because they preferred it and didn’t care about the downsides. There’s an alternative to every website and app which respects privacy, serves no ads, and has no algorithm to farm your outrage. Users refuse to use them because they aren’t cool enough.

    You got a point there, though I think it's users and corporations who both ruined it. And why ? Because users were not well informed and did choose for easy solutions without caring about privacy. At the last Tw(X)tter Exodus to Mastodon you could see several vocal new Mastodon users complain about not having a quote option. And probably several of them stopped using Mastodon for that. People have strong opinions and when they can choose to communicate with most of them friends with things like Facebook they go for that rather than having to spend time on exploring more privacy friendly options. And why ? Because there is so little time and because technology is scary for a lot of "normies". I believe that is the success of Apple : shiny looking white design and easy of use. No plug & pray but easy peasy communication. Never mind the high prizes and walled pay garden. Ease of use and design is top priority for some. Does it makes sense to re-educate people and inform them ? I believe yes, but only if they are interested and have some spare time.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    Yes :( Self inclined vendor lock-in (tm). I hope for more new Linux users (unless it does not fit their use case very well) who are willing to learn and spread the word!

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    [–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

    the worse windows gets, the funnier it is to me

    [–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

    It's more complicated than anger for me. There's the disappointment that they've sunk so far, worry that other programs that I use could follow, but also some relief that I switched when I did.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    I don’t use Windows at home but I still have to deal with it and their β€˜features’ when I work with my spouse’s desktop and at my workplace. God I hate it.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

    I have it at work, it makesme feel young again, feeling the OS speed like in the year 2000.

    Half the time I have the circle of waiting, and right clicks can take up to 40 seconds before it shows the contextual menu, like wtf.

    [–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    I feel bad for the people who still use windows

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (3 children)

    I feel bad for people that even spend one moment thinking about what operating system someone else prefers

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

    Does anyone genuinely prefer Windows for a reason that makes sense? Or are they just a captive audience?

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Now I use linux and I'm still mad at what microsoft is doing!

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

    merely slightly less angry

    [–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

    This made me laugh so hard I down voted five times before I could hit the up vote button

    [–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (6 children)

    Linux is really just the kernel the OS runs on. What people dislike are some of the stupid choices a distribution's maintainers make. Like, Ubuntu used to be a great entry-level operating system for people who wanted to get into Linux but didn't want to ditch all the things they understood from Windows or MacOS. It provided a level of comfort and ease of use. Which is great, and something the Linux community needs. But then Canonical started injecting snap package bloatware with everything and it's just a mess. You have as little control over snap updates as you do Windows updates unless you completely disable the service, which is hardly trivial for a new user.

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    [–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    This reminds me of a college rivalry. People from College A (mine) hated College B. People from College B didn't care at all.

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    [–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

    Now that I use Linux I'm often angry about what I'm doing to my own system.

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

    Woe is me, I can't install other operating systems on my work computer. I'm being paid for every hour Microsoft bugs me or refuses to do what I want it though so, oh well. More time to shitpost and vent on Lemmy!

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

    I don't hate ms bullshit anymore, people are free to use anything else. Now, i am just glad that the average consumer software is garbage, and we can look like wizards and get some cash when we automate lengthy processes for corpos that got used to the inefficiency.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

    Am I the only one that doesn't mind? It's an OS and we all have free will. I have both and enjoy using both OS. Maybe because I'm 38?

    [–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

    The problem I have is normalization. People complained about micro-monetization in video games, but that was normalized. People complained about corporate interest in open source, but that's normalized. Now people are complaining about your operating system advertising to you against your will, it will be normal soon.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

    Tbh, I'm fine with cosmetic-only microtransactions, so long as they're not pumped at you all the time.

    Edit: in an otherwise free-to-play game. Fuck micros in paid games.

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

    Yeah because I'm angry at Windows for some of the dumbest shit it's done for a while now.

    And I'm still angry whenever I'm on Linux because it's progress is taking too long for it to be embraced more comfortably when it comes to compatibility. I'd like for more things and development to work with even the most known Linux OSes. Just pick 5 of the best Linux OSes out there and develop for them. It worked for Ubuntu for awhile until that randomly got dropped by some manufacturers.

    Until then I'm just angry to be on Linux because I know I can't 100% run everything I want to on it as I did Windows.

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