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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Lizardman constant. You'd probably have about 3% answering yes in California or Maine as well.

[–] Anyolduser 4 points 1 year ago

Western Iowa gets awfully Great Plains-ish. I could see someone living there answering "no" to the survey.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Actually the lowest value on the map for the discrepancy to the definition.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Is Idaho 25% dumbasses? I've never been

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Higher percent then that considering how OBGYN's are running from the state like its on fire due to post Roe stuff they've been doing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good point.

I'll give the western Midwest states a pass but the really confusing part here is how anyone in Minnesota/Wisconsin/Illinois/Indiana/Iowa/Ohio can think they aren't in the Midwest...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For Ohio, it's important to remember that the southeast 1/3 of the state is Appalachian foothills. As for the other state, I have no fucking clue

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm from Idaho. So the first answer is, yes a lot of people there are. School is meant to hit legal requirements sorta while training kids to take over the farming business from their parents. Second answer is south Idaho is basically flat deserty farmland with lots of wind, cattle, and small farming towns. It can feel very Midwest in that sense even if it is pretty far from the official Midwest border

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I suppose that's a fair way to look at it if you're considering the "functional" definition of Midwest (farming-based flyover states) instead of the geographic location

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would call ND SD KS NE "Great Plains."

Idaho? Really?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

Oklahoma is also not Midwest. They aren't friendly enough.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Great Plains and Midwest are almost synonymous.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

As a Wisconsinite, I've always been confused why it's considered "midwest". Wisconsin is in the eastern half of the US, and at the very top. Should be called the "midnorth"

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well America used to be just a handful of colonies along the eastern seaboard, but then there was the whole manifest destiny thing. Going west meant heading out to the new frontier. Midwesterners are people who gave up midway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Also sometimes referred to as the "Midwest Expanse"

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"Midwest" was once called "West". Like, Ohio was "The West", with "The West" meaning anything west the coastal plain.

Then people went even further west, but they still wanted to call the west of the past "West" so they called it "Middle West".

You kind of see the same thing in Asia. To Europe, Jerusalem was in "The East". Heck, even Constantinople was in "The East?" Then people saw just how much East there was. So... Middle East?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a born and bred Seattleite, I consider Wisconsin east coast. I also consider Montana east coast. Idaho? Not Midwest. East coast. Spokane? East. Hawaii? So far west it's east. Everything is east.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

25% confusion. Idaho is mid and west, but not midwest. Y'all Pacific Northwest.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Idaho is sometimes considered Pacific Northwest (in particular North Idaho) but generally Idaho is Inland Northwest

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Conservatives in charge of education in Idaho got mfrs identifying as Midwesterners. 🪓🚁

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

I'm a product of the Idaho education system, and it's not great. Luckily got a start in Washington, so it didn't ruin me completely. But that result does not surprise me at all.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How does Ohio barely beat Oklahoma?

What even is Oklahoma? Other than a failed petrostate

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It's at an unholy cultural crossroads. Can't decide if it's Midwestern, Southern, Southwestern, or Texan.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The weeeeed capital of America babbbbbyyyy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

That’s Vermont, it’s Appalachia for hippies

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I want to meet the 9% of people in Pennsylvania that think they're in the Midwest.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They're probably somewhere near the midwest of the state...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago
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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (5 children)

wyoming and colorado are so high? like nah bro ur j west. also ohio being lower than illinois is nuts. maybe a lot of people in the appalachia region bc here in toledo we know where we are.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It really feels like there's been some sort of movement in Ohio to disown being in the Midwest. I'm in north east Ohio and I know I'm in the Midwest.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah I can’t believe it. We are “mountain west” (as opposed to pacific west).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

My bet with Wyoming is that most of the (admittedly small) population is in the Eastern part of the state, like Cheyenne and Laramie, if kinda makes sense they'd see themselves as more "Midwest"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Same for Eastern Colorado. It looks suspiciously like Kansas, but more desolate.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It’s probably the same confused souls in Kentucky

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

From the driver's seat of a semi, Colorado feels like bits and pieces of its neighboring states smooshed together. You got Utahrado, New Mexirado, Wyomirado, and, yes, Nebraskarado, which is probably where the Midwestern Coloradans live. The only part where I really feel like I'm in a distinct state is the high mountain forests that shoot down the middle of the state.

Denver is probably where it is because it's right at the intersection of quite a few of these biomes. I wouldn't be surprised to learn it's been a major trading center for about as long as humans have roamed the continent.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine living in Arkansas and trying to claim you are a Midwesterner with a straight face.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Imagine doing so in Idaho! Like that’s almost all the way west

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

okay but i live on like the very edge, so… pseudo-midwest?

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Can someone explain to a european why this huge chunk of the eastern half of the country is called "midwest"?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It makes more sense when you consider that for most of US history the country was significantly smaller than it is now. Originally the country pretty much just consisted of the East Coast - and France, England, and Spain still had large chunks of territory within the US's current borders.

Much of what's now considered the west wasn't captured from Spain/Mexico until much later. So basically just look at it from the perspective of the East Coast where the US originated. To them at that time what we consider the Midwest now would have just been the west. And the terms changed with the westward expansion.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Manifest destiny / westward expansion

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As someone who moved here from New England let me explain.

  • Cheese curds
  • Dontcha know?
  • Discount Canada

That's the midwest.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’d be curious about Texas. I hear it labeled as South, Southwest and then just Texas

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Coastal part is The South. Inland, you get Southwest. Then there's the panhandle, and while I don't know much about what the locals think of it, from the driver's seat of a semi it's indistinguishable from the flatter parts of Oklahoma. (Meanwhile, one of my favorite truck stops is in the hilly part of Oklahoma: the Chocktaw travel center in Stringtown.)

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lol The Ohio

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I’ve definitely visited that 9% in Pensyltucky.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Ohio River was once the border of the frontier. Some ways that border is still there.

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