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It's for my mother, who so far cannot stand LibreOffice.

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[–] [email protected] 101 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

While I personally love LibreOffice, I get why your mom might not. It's super easy:

  1. Download and install Office
  2. run irm https://massgrave.dev/get | iex in Powershell and follow the instructions
  3. Profit!

What doesn't she like about LibreOffice, out of curiosity? It's easy to make the layout like Office (View > User Interface > Tabbed) if that's her problem - I felt the exact same way, but the second I found out I could do that, I never went back.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What's this do? Been linux only for like 12 years and don't keep up with office

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Massgrave is a tool that can create legit (oem) keys for windows and office out of thin air*

  • it’s not literally creating them from nothing, it’s using a system Ms themselves run to get working keys. Evidently they don’t have a huge problem with it.
[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Turns out the powershell step is enough to get 97% of users to shell out cash.

And also, the biggest source of revenue is institutions who either will pay for the enterprise license, or can be sued for a good payday if they try to pirate.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I would pay to not use PowerShell, but I'm a Linux user so I don't need to :)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

Done this a while ago for my brother who needed Office for work but isn't as tech minded as I am. It's honestly a fantastic tool, kudos to the creator!

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Download office from massgrave.dev and activate with the power shell activator. Permanent activation as easy as it gets.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (1 children)

massgrave.dev

This appears to have worked flawlessly

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There was an article that caught Microsoft's own IT support use this script to activate a customer's computer so I guess Microsoft approves of it.

Edit: sauce

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

yea can barely call it 'effort' more like accidentally tripped, pressed enter and now office 365 is installed ;D

[–] [email protected] 57 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You could tell your mom the real price of MS office. She might suddenly stand LibreOffice just fine.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

i'm always amused by the reaction of my friends when i tell them that office costs $10 per month. They are all always "whaaaaat?? This POS is this expensive??"

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

Screw word. I'm studying Software Development, but I have to write all these management reports for various classes. I'm just writing them in LaTeX now, so it feels like I'm coding while I'm writing a paper. Implement some new fancy features every time that I than have to debug like I do with code.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 11 months ago

Meanwhile I quietly switched Ms office with libreoffice on my dads PC and he didn't even notice.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hosting pirate scripts for a Microsoft product on another Microsoft owned website is... interesting.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You can change libreoffice to have the ribbon and act more like ms office.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago

View -> User Interface, change to Tabbed or Tabbed Compact (or Notebookbar in old versions).

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

@Reverendender

OnlyOffice Desktop Editors...

Simpler interface but lacking more advanced features of MS Office or Libre. It has the features 90% of users actually use though.

Nearly perfect DOCX formatting compatibility. The only thing I have ever noticed when collaborating with Word users is the bullet symbols on list items may be different on my end.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Agreed. I really tried to like Libre/OpenOffice over the years but it never felt right. OnlyOffice really hits the spot for me.

I don’t use Windows much any more but I was happy with the discounted student version of Office 2016, afaik the last perpetual license.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Download the official version and activate with MAS

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Neat. I didn't know any services like this existed.

Should I be wary of using this while logged in to my Microsoft account?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

As long as it’s for personal use I don’t think Microsoft gives a shit (beyond what is legally necessary)

They care more that you’re using their software and it stays the default productivity suite for workplaces

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

I don‘t think so. I‘m logged in with a regular account and don‘t have any trouble.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

u can download OFFICE official ISO fom microsoft directly and use MASS to activate just take like 5 mins downloading, installing and activating.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

and you can be sure that it's clean

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

At this point I think it's more beneficial for you to move to using LibreOffice. It's a better to spend your time getting used to that, instead of trying to obtain MS Office.

I'm not saying that LibreOffice is as good, but it's good enough.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago

It's really easy to do actually.

[–] PenisWenisGenius 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've had success using a cracked Office 2013 installation. The older ones don't have as sophisticated anti piracy measures and don't unactivate themselves as often.

I eventually got my dad to use Libre office. There are several different ui layouts and one of the is really similar to ms office.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Out of curiosity: what she doesn't like?
I bought my license for like 4 or 5 usd after a life of sailing and using libreoffice, not on ebay but on one of those praised website that sells key for games and such

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

How about a code from eBay for an older version usually around $5-$10 have never had an issue

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

i don't want to start a war but sorry, office is the defacto when it comes to office work and libreoffice still have many problems with formatting and editing existing .docx files (things seem better when it comes to .xlsx and .pptx) not to mention that your documents might not look similar on both due to missing proprietary fonts.

its a good software in itself its just that its compatibility with office is a little dodgy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (5 children)

It's because it's not the native format. How does MS Office show/edit ODT documents? Does it work better?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Why not try out onlyoffice? The interface is almost exactly the same, and you get free cloud storage

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

If you must have MS office, then I'd go with MAS/Massgrave like others have said.

It's well documented, requires minimal setup (if going default route), and is much less risky than going into the grey market for keys or downloading cracks elsewhere.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why not just change to the other kind of header bar -- Notebook or what not.

I'd say no because at least LibreOffice won't change for no reason every few years.

Also, fuck Microsoft & their products & Adobe too. They can get lost and we shouldn't prop them up as defacto when other options exist.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

key resellers have office 2021 pro plus (the non subscription one) for $30.00ish (earlier versions are even cheaper) and that is what I recommend if you absolutely have to get office.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago

imho between the two options, the more ethical is to pirate rather than supporting a shady key reseller. Anyway microsoft gets the exact same amount of money either if you purchase a stolen key from msdn or you install a pirated copy activated via mas

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Considering the grey market is filled with dodgy keys, it'd be better to just pirate, especially when there are easy and safe ways to do it like with MAS

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Word, Excel, and PowerPoint are free to use with the web interface.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

There is some functionality not available through the web apps. If you work in a corporate setting, the odds are really good that the web apps won't be adequate for you.

One example that comes to mind is one of our clients that has us file a report once per quarter. The report is an Excel spreadsheet that can be filled but not edited. The submission demands that the file be then password edit protected and uploaded along with the password. You cannot secure files that way via the web app. We literally keep a Windows VM with the a copy of the desktop office suite, just for this client's quarterly form.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It might sound like a pretty obvious thing, but have you tried changing the tools into the "Tabbed ribbon" that office uses instead of the classic old 90s organization scheme in options ?

I have come to notice that when people who don't really work with computers very well, in particular boomers, say that they can't stand LibreOffice, they mean they don't like the layout of the tools, because they can't find anything they need. I suppose they just got used to where everything is with modern office.

Just change it and see if she will like it better. Usually solves it for the boomers i help. Nothing is holding LibreOffice back more than their default layout scheme. They really don't know their target audience's pain points AT ALL. Just goes to show why you need to study your users using the product without being explained anything.

I don't get why their default is a layout that has been outdated for 24 years. Nostalgia or what? Only really old people who used computers in the 90s a lot will intuitively find it useful.

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