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Grocery giants paid for friendly Liberal, Tory policy with decades of donations (breachmedia.ca)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The only mention the NDP gets in the story is:

For the past few years, the New Democrats have pushed for a windfall tax on the record profits of grocery giants. Justin Trudeau initially rejected the idea, calling it “simplistic,” then shifted to vaguely threatening to implement it, without following through. Meanwhile, the Conservatives have expressed constant opposition.

It would be interesting to use them as a control, assuming they haven't received the same donations. Are they proposing stronger legislation or policy?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If I were leading the NDP, I would be banging this drum constantly. Instead, we have the fucking Conservatives acting as the party of the working class, which is insane.

It seems to work for Sanders in the US, but the NDP parties in Canada seem afraid to be called socialists, having been stung during the Rae era in Ontario.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

But the Cons also received money. How are they acting as the party of the working class? The NDP got us pharmacare added to healthcare while in 3rd place.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, when I say "Acting" I mean "they're making a lot of noise about it, and somehow their supporters believe them"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Ok, got it.

I agree, but honestly, their supporters don't have to believe. They vote for the C even when they don't bother to put up platform, and I mean that literally. Their supporters support the C, they don't care what the people actually do.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't understand why the NDP don't do better in elections. It astonishes me that Canadians won't vote for the only party with any real will to address the problems that affect them daily. Do people really think the Conservatives have the best interests of the common people at heart?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I looked at the YouTube channels for each party a couple of weeks back. The Conservatives had like six videos released in the previous ten days. The NDP had around five in the previous three months.

I'm coming to believe that the NDP doesn't get votes because they don't get their story out. They drop the occasional press release and sound bite, but that's about it. Meanwhile the Cons do a full court press on every social media platform constantly.

[+] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

A great way for the NDP to combat that nonsense would be to release videos on YouTube.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

And Mastodon! :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The one social media network the amplified left-wing radicalism--Twitter--got bought and tanked by a billionaire.

I can barely recall the last time I saw real left-wing content on Youtube, and the others (Facebook, Reddit) are fine with overt Naziism, but say "eat the rich and pass the ketchup!" and you're looking at suspension.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

There are some decent left-wing channels on YouTube, but you won't see recommendations for them unless you have a history of watching stuff like that. Google knows about my political leanings because they watch everything I do, so I see left-wing content in my recommendations. By default though they are far more likely to recommend right-wing rubbish.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

For me personally, I do not see them having much of a backbone. It appears that their insecurities lead them to waver when conviction is called for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It would be interesting if there was a federal party with big ideas and detailed policy proposals worth actually getting behind.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Apparently we need even stronger controls on political donations, since it seems that purchasing politicians is pretty cheap.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

This is one of those things where I think our political class just doesn't give a shit.

The public is unhappy, but that hasn't translated into a threat at election time, so MPs and MPPs let the status quo linger. Politicians are happy to accept the donations, but would there be a different outcome if the Westons hadn't donated a few thousand dollars a year?

Having said that, I'm all for controls on donations, limits on political advertising, limits on where politicians can work after they leave office, etc.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

He thought it was very effective, that you could get very high returns for relatively small amounts of money

Caroline Ellison's testimony on SBF

(Yes I know that's USA but our elected bums are just as easily bought)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

even stronger controls

Sort of implies there are already strong controls. What are they?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

There are limits on donation amount per contributor (I don't remember how much off the top of my head, but it isn't that high a number).

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

TIL Canadians use the term Tory

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (3 children)

But we don't use Whig. 🤷‍♂️

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

But our lawyers and judges still have to dress in that stupid ass costume like it's the 1800s

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I think the US had Whigs for like a decade maybe? Them and the Know Nothings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

The US has one party. We watch Canadian PM debates and drewl at the prospect of having a platform for actual leftists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Nah, they're the grits

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

Go see Bob Loblaw, Attorney at Law...he's usually on his law blog