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[–] [email protected] 218 points 10 months ago (4 children)

...which gets paid to the teen by the taxpayers rather than the police union, which should be paying.

[–] [email protected] 180 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Should be the cop's personal liability insurance since they were breaking the law.

[–] [email protected] 119 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I would rather make the police union responsible. It's the only union Republicans care about and the only union that exists in part to oppress union organizers.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

The second the police union has to start footing the bill, you'll suddenly see a whole lot of cops being fired and accountability for behavior materialize out of the ether.

You'll also see a whole lot of violence in the streets, too, to be clear. Cause if theres one things cops just cant fucking stand, its being held accountable, and they'll burn the entire system down to prevent it..or, failing that, out of spite.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 10 months ago

The second the police union has to start footing the bill, you'll suddenly see a whole lot of cops being fired and accountability for behavior materialize out of the ether

Fat chance. What's more likely is that you'll see new laws pop up making it illegal to sue the police. These dirtbags aren't giving up their control.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Good. Fire the thugs and lock them up

[–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago (2 children)

They'd pay in higher insurance. Or by not hiring people who make their insurance go up.

But yeah, they should foot the bill somehow, too.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I guess I'm just not happy with the idea of some insurance company taking the hit. It still doesn't hit cops directly enough even if their rates go up. Start making the union pay and maybe the union will make their members get in line.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago

The advantage of having officers carry malpractice insurance is the same as it is with doctors. Eventually, the premiums to insure a bad officer get so high, no one is willing to pay them. Or, they simply uninsurable, as no company is willing to take on the risk. It also means there will be a large and politically connected organization (insurance companies) which have a financial interest in collecting data on bad police officers. Sure, that should be the government's job, but since we know that's not happening, why not exploit corporate greed for a positive thing?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Take it out of their pension fund.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

ACAB - all cops are broke.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Insurance companies screw over everyone. That's what they do. I'm okay with them sharing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Insurance companies are never mandated to take a policy - pushing up premiums is an effective way to discourage future bad behavior.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

If they paid in being more cautious about hiring shitty cops I'd call that a win... while ACAB, some are definitely much bigger assholes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We say ACAB because any high school kid knows what lunch table has the bullies. When it's matters of life/death/power imbalances, there is a moral obligation to sound the alarm on that table.

But no cops ever seem to call out the psychopaths with guns amongst them. And in a position of power, that is just as bad.

One bad apple spoils the whole bunch.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

But no cops ever seem to call out the psychopaths with guns amongst them. And in a position of power, that is just as bad.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Why should the police union be held responsible?

if a steel-worker breaks a machine, do you also wanna hold the union responsible?

no, this was this single specific person. He should be held reliable, noone else. Collective punishment is not a good thing, you know?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Because the unions shield the cops and fund their legal defenses and because that single person is almost never held responsible.

Also, I don't know what you think corporal punishment is, but it isn't that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Also, I don't know what you think corporal punishment is, but it isn't that.

Maybe giving the cops a good spanking when they break the law might help.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

They'd probably be into it like their daddy Trump.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, seargent punishment is worse, not to mention detective punishment, or even undercover punishment.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I hear Corporal Punishment doesn't come without Major Pain.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sherrif you say so, I guess...

(For those wondering at the joke this far down the thread... it's "corporeal punishment"--corporal is a rank.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporal_punishment

It is correct. It's used in the same sense, too, bodily punishment, and corporals were head of a "body" of soldiers.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, the taxpayers should be completely off the hook!

Now, how do we best ignore the overwhelming support taxpayers have for police, police brutality, and for supporting corrupt sheriffs that regularly get reelected?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Overwhelming support for police does not mean that taxpayers should be on the hook when they fuck up.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's also overwhelming support for doctors, who carry personal liability insurance and don't get bailed out by the taxpayers when they screw up.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Can you blame people for being brainwashed?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

That's a tough question. I'd say it depends.

I mean, aren't all racists, sexists, religious-extremists, and the like, brainwashed?

I don't typically feel it's right to "blame", for lack of a better term, poor or stupid people for their financial issues or their inability to acquire and apply new knowledge, so I'm inclined to answer yes to your question. However, I also don't support "brainwashed" people that hurt, harass, or injur others. I can, and do, have compassion for them to try and understand how they came to believe, speak, and behave the way they do, but they don't get a pass. They're still responsible for changing their beliefs, the way they speak, and they way they behave.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Beau had a good take, that incentivizes cover-ups.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (11 children)

They don't need to incentivize coverups. They happen all the time regardless. And body cams make it a lot more difficult. Body cams conveniently not working at a specific time doesn't look great either. Of course, cops generally get off anyway.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

We can't punish cops or they will just get better at lying!

Is that actually the extent of your take, or all that made it through the keyboard?

[–] [email protected] 54 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit, this was because someone reported her mom for not wearing a freaking helmet!?!?!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

To be fair, she is black. /s

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

"A teen said"

"filmed" interaction.

Seems like there's more than "a teen's" word to go on. There's video evidence.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

Fuck that headline.

"Deputy caught on camera threatening teenager while arresting his mother. Jury awarded the victims $185,000"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So this is how our money is spent, wiping the butt of some power-trip cops. No wonder why we cannot get free education.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

Where's my fucking money?

I got physically restrained and jailed after filming the police who searched my house without authorisation or a warrant.

But I live in Finland where everyone is a bootlicker and no-one cares about the cops being authoritarian as fuck.

"Personal freedom" is probably considered some kind of an exotic dessert by most Finns.

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