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[–] [email protected] 229 points 10 months ago (4 children)

And uh… no easily identifiable tattoos?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 37 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I'm guessing the intention here is that they're fake, marker drawn ones. Still not great, but I'd think the artist who made this would at least understand that much if they understood rules like no phone, no pics, no talking to pigs.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That makes sense. But then again, the mom seems to be proudly showing off some unique tattoos herself, like that Opel gender sign, so it might run in the family.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

She’s also a big fan of vitamin B12

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But then how will people immediately know if they're cool or not???

[–] [email protected] 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (9 children)

As a tangent this is what has always irritated me with movements like the pro- legalization of weed.

I work 9-5 make good money and have 3 kids. I'm north of 40. I am not the same as the Billy bong pothead everyone sees at every rally because people like me stay the fuck away.

There are many of us that do not want to announce ourselves that are in the system actively working to change it for the better of everyone. Tattoos and a torn jacket do not make a punk.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Billy bong pothead is probably also working full time and just as likely to have kids as anyone.

What's the problem that you're getting at? People dressing different? Expression of counter culture?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

And ? Why the hate on billy bong pothead?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

Maybe if people like you had some balls and weren't judgmental and disparaging to the people out there fighting for change and visibility you'd have some more movement on legalization. Jeez man your comment is kinda fucked.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's a good rule of thumb. But in a huge group of anarchists i don't know if the anarchist symbol is particularly identifiable.

For real tho, if you're out protesting it's probably a good idea to cover your tattoos.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The commonality of symbol itself isn’t necessarily the point. If you have one that is easily identifiable (such as the anarchy sybmol) and the location is readily apparent, say on your left arm on your elbow, then that’s enough for them to go with to help with ID the person. While there may be plenty of the symbol around, the odds of a person of a certain age/sex/color having that same symbol in the same spot is pretty close to zero.

Late edit: if you want to fool visual identification via tattoos, get fake tattoos that are visible and then remove them.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What's the deal with tattoos? I'm somewhat interested in getting some, but I don't want to get them if they'll make things more risky in the future. Then again, at an action you should be in black pants and long sleeve shirt with gloves and a mask, so maybe it doesn't matter all that much as long as you cover them?

[–] [email protected] 87 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And cover any identifiable tattoos.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Get some fake tattoos and put a rock in your shoe too.

Don't wear any clothes you wear elsewhere or bought in a way that can be tracked back to you.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't remember where I read it, but apparently the rock in shoe thing doesn't work all that well.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit I actually did tell my daughter not to bring her phone to the protest.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

May I know what's the reason to not bring your phone? Is it due to concerns of being tracked?

[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago

Basically, yes. Plus, it may be unconstitutionally searched if you are detained.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Yes. Even when your phone is powered down, some models still ping cell towers. If it pings one, they know your distance to the tower. If it pings two, both towers know your distance, and the overlapping circles would reveal two positions coordinates, one of which you were at. With some contextual information, it's easy to know/prove which one you were at.

If it pings 3 towers, your exact location, and unique identifying information sucha as your phone's IMEI is revealed. So don't bring a cell.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Corporates are even bold enough to brand this as a nice to have feature, they call it "find my device" I think? But we can totally trust them to keep this data absolutely private and secure ! /s

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Surprised to see nobody has mentioned Banksy's "Mother and Anarchist", this is pretty close to it.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's no way this isn't a reference to that. The mom is essentially just traced over.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Thanks for sharing the picture, i should have done that 😅

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

i actually know people like this, i love my life

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Aww, some people have the sweetest parents :3

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

I wonder, when are you supposed to put on your mask, at the protest, on the way there, when getting out of home?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

On the way home I'd think

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (9 children)

Like, I get the point, but if you are too much of a coward to put your face with the cause, I am automatically assuming you don’t really care and just want the attention

[–] [email protected] 64 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Or maybe you just don't want to be identified by bad actors who can and will doxx you?

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But with a mask on and no phone pics, how are you going to get that attention?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The mass of people chanting and holding signs is usually enough to draw the required attention. That's kinda the point.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (15 children)

I thought the commentor meant the OP pic person was doing it for personal attention. Not attention for a cause.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean yeah, but (at least in the US) cops have a habit of trampling your rights to protest. Even if you did nothing illegal they can (and will) still harass you after the fact for bullshit, made-up reasons.

They'll assault you in the moment too, but protecting your identity won't protect you from that.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago

the attention you won't get because your identity is not known?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Hmm, I hadn't thought about it that way, NOIWONTPICKANAME.

I guess you don't really care about this comment either, then, and are just doing it for attention.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is privilege talking, you should read Little Brother by Cory Doctorow.

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