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[–] [email protected] 91 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If I say I think it’s pitbulls will I go up or down.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Down. wild is what you’re looking for. This was a pack of wild dogs. Maybe they were owned by someone but this is wild dog behavior. The owner should not only be charged with manslaughter and multiple assault and endangerment, but also some charges for having dogs in a way to do this.

No dog owner would condone any part of this and it’s irrelevant what breed the dogs were.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

These were not wild dogs. They were owned. The breed of dog is important for understanding aggression in dogs. Denying that is literally sticking your head in the sand to avoid factual information you don’t want to hear.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Aggression in any dog breed is 100% on the human responsible for the dog.

Ban Pitts and then scratch your head a few years later when you hear about the German Shepherd attacks, ban the German Shepherds and then wipe the drool from your mouth while you read the article about the uptick in Rottweiler maulings the year after.

You can play wack-a-mole all you want, the rest of us will focus on achievable solutions.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Dog species don’t up their attack trends in response to other species falling behind. If pits are banned the attack rates of other species will remain about the same: much lower than pits.

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[–] [email protected] 87 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Cox said about a dozen dogs went after Williams' three children....

No one needs to own a dozen dogs, outside of niche cases like service dog training programs. Certainly no one should have a dozen "pet" dogs. Clearly an irresponsible owner situation.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Afaik the max here is 6, if you have more, you need to be registered.
Anyways this incident must be the responsibility of the owner, he has not secured his dogs properly. Obviously they all need to be put down, and the owner should be tried for manslaughter IMO. What the law says however IDK.
Maybe some sort of causing death through negligence.

Edit: just looked it up, the max is 4 adult dogs. More is considered a kennel and requires permission. (Denmark)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's such a shame that these could have been perfectly fine dogs if they had been properly cared for.

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[–] [email protected] 70 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

Dollars to donuts that shitbulls were involved.

[–] [email protected] 93 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I bet irresponsible owners were involved.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Every pitbull owner is, by definition, irresponsible

[–] [email protected] 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Logic not your strong suit is it?

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The breed should be extinguished. It serves no purpose other than dogfighting, mauling children, and wasting precious space in shelters.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 11 months ago

I mean yeah they already said that were shitbull owners

[–] [email protected] 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I almost got mauled in the South. 100% irresponsible owners and nothing to do with the breed.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

"I got hit by a tricycle"

"I got hit by an f150"

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Something tells me it wasn't a pomeranian

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

An irresponsible owner with a Yorkie can get your socks bitten, an irresponsible owner with a pitbull can kill you.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Why not both?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 56 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

People:

Bloodhounds are renowned for their sense of smell due to intentional selective-breeding.

Greyhounds are renowned for their incredible speed and agility due to intentional selective-breeding.

Border Collies are renowned as the premium choice of herding dog due to intentional selective-breeding.

The exact same people:

Intentional selective-breeding has ZERO impact on pitbulls!!!

Sure, dude.

Edit: typo

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So...Pitbulls were bred for a purpose, just like all other working dog breeds.

That doesn't mean they're all inherently dangerous dogs, but it does mean they carry significantly more risk then other breeds.

Unless you actually believe that they're the only working breed not created by selectively breeding for specific hereditary behavioral characteristics?

Mind you, I actually like pitbulls, but that doesn't mean I should disregard what I know about the breed itself and why they were originally created.

Also FYI that article is about personality, not breed specific characteristics.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Awww, adorable, you think we're talking about their personalities and not their bone crushing jaws.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The article is not conclusive. There are always going to be outliers in a case by case basis.

From the same article:

“Still, after decades of treating, showing, and judging countless breeds, AKC’s chief veterinary officer, Jerry Klein, disputes the study’s conclusions. “I think most dogs conform to the personality standard of their breed,” he says.”

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

ThEy ArE nAnNy DoGs

[–] [email protected] 52 points 11 months ago

Someone better be going away for manslaughter.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 11 months ago (8 children)

People get mad if you don't like dogs, but you never read stories about people getting mauled by cats.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

That's because they kill in different ways. Cats are more like Rogues - you get a scratch one day and then later you're dying a slow painful death of Cat Scratch Fever, or silently end your pregnancy with Toxoplasmosis.

Dogs on the other hand are more like Barbarians, they just brute force your death in person as fast as they can.

Edit: Parrots are Bards. That is all I will say.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

No, parrots are BIRDS. Honest mistake.

/s

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I think we should compare dogs and cats to good pets to own, rather than pretending the choices are "big powerful dog" and "environment destroyer 3000."

After all, both are safe in theory, but irresponsible pet owners ruin it. You can't expect everyone to correctly take care of certain dog breeds, you can't expect the majority of cat owners to give up the "proud to roll coal" attitude towards their cat + the environment.

Let's just have pet spiders or something.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I bet Kristi Noem wouldn't have stood for this.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago

YOU SEE!? YOU SEEEEEE?!

-Kristi Noem

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There were 12 of these angry dogs, though. Not one trusting dog in a cinder pit. I don't know if Noem would have been able to handle it even with a gun.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Y’all should just go ahead and lock this one.

It’s only gonna get worse from here.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

Locking threads because you don't like the discourse is such bullshit

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago

It'd be a shame to offend a dog.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Or we just acknowledge there is an "assault rifle" of dogs.

Some can own them without issue their whole life.

Some use them (in this case allow them) to cause disproportionate harm, beyond the norm.

Should it be illegal to own? No.

Should stringent training and care standards be in place? Yes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

We don't know the breed involved yet but we're mostly assuming it's pitbulls. They're illegal to own here in the UK because they keep killing people.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

Dog owning is a serious responsibility that people are wildly reckless with.

It's past time for the state to step in. The supply of dogs needs to be controlled, with all animals not intended for breeding being spade or neutered before being adopted.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 11 months ago

The breeds of the dogs weren't specified according to this article.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

When will we hold owners responsible? We have started holding parents responsible for their kids actions we need to do the same for dogs.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Owners are always liable wtf are you talking about????

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

What a terrible way to go.

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