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[–] xantoxis@lemmy.world 128 points 11 months ago (3 children)

When I read the headline I briefly imagined a world where people who bought new cars were statutorily required to honk at other drivers for their driving.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 37 points 11 months ago

I was SO torn on posting this to the Not The Onion community for that reason. I find the headline hilarious (as evidenced by me commenting "HONK" throughout this comment section)

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I was picturing the same thing, but I imagined it was automated and I was dying laughing.

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[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 128 points 11 months ago (9 children)

What I’m reading is that every car will have to be equipped with functioning GPS that’s going to check against a database of speed limits.

—Speed limits that can change and be out of date. —GPS data that could be stored and extracted from the dealership and sold or given to the government, insurance companies, and law enforcement. —GPS data that could be sent in real time if the car has a cellular connection or hijacks the cellular connection in your phone when you connect it to the car.

This is bad. Really really bad.

[–] elvith@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 11 months ago

…GPS data that ~~could~~ will be stored and extracted…

GPS data that ~~could~~ will be sent in real time

FTFY!

[–] hikaru755@feddit.de 28 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I agree with your first point, but the latter two:

—GPS data that could be stored and extracted from the dealership and sold or given to the government, insurance companies, and law enforcement. —GPS data that could be sent in real time if the car has a cellular connection or hijacks the cellular connection in your phone when you connect it to the car.

Why do you think this is more likely to happen with this new regulation, when most modern cars already have a functioning GPS module for navigation and cellular connection for software updates?

[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

It's the standardizing that worries me. When it's required, people probably aren't going to be able to truly turn off their GPS (maybe this is already a thing, I don't know).

Edit: And when it's classified as a safety feature, it will [most likely] be illegal to disable, making car owners criminals if they refuse to be tracked.

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[–] TenderfootGungi@lemmy.world 49 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Our GPS often shows the incorrect speed limit.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 28 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And map data for speed limits is outdated at best.

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[–] mikezane 44 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Headline is misleading. This only passed the state Senate. It has not passed the state assembly yet. It also would need to be signed by the governor if it does pass in the assembly.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

Welcome to lemmy, where every proposal and chamber vote is now law.

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[–] Garbanzo@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

Someone driving at an unsafe speed? How about some distractions, that should work out great!

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 39 points 11 months ago (4 children)

What will it use to determine where you are and what the speed limit is?

Google maps? Apple maps? Is there some government mapping service with speed limits that are updated based on construction?

Can I turn it off when it is constantly wrong on rural roads?

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago
[–] DemSpud@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I think a lot of modern cars recognise the speed signs with cameras

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

A lot of rural roads are unmarked, and use the state law standard.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago
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[–] randon31415@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Beep beep!

Car, I'm on the highway! I know GPS drifted a bit, but I'm not on the residential road next to the highway that has a 25 mph speed limit, I'm on the highway with a speed minimum of 45 mph!

Beep beep!

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[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It not the job of citizens to enforce the law but I guess cops are too busy murdering citizens.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wrong type of beeping, though I mistook it for that too. They mean an alert similar to the seat belt or door audible alerts. People who have some sort of device from their insurance ro monitor their driving get some types of beeps like this already (stuff like decelerating to hard).

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[–] nifty@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Haha this will make using car alerts completely meaningless

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[–] yol@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My car beeps at me if j go the wrong way down a 1 way street. Of course it hasn't updated the maps of the area where i live in at least 10 years so it just beeps constantly.

[–] fiercekitten@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

Are you serious?! I would set it on fire and launch it at the manufacturer’s headquarters, then plead “temporary insanity by incessant beeping” to the court.

[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)
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[–] Meuzzin@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (15 children)

Enshittification is hitting every part of society...

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is this about speeding?

Or is this about getting every car to broadcast it's location data?

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[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago
[–] solrize@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (5 children)

The car has to track your location and regularly download the local speed limits so it knows when you are speeding? Bet it's uploading your location too. This is way invasive and not just annoying.

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[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago (1 children)

this is hilarious, and i support this just for the absolute chaos it will create

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The light repeating ding of the AE86 after it screeches around every corner

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (7 children)

So this turns every car on the road into a speed sensor yes? And then the cops use that aggregate data to feed cops info to inform speed traps and collect ticket quotas

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[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm surprised California dealerships aren't on top of this as a huge threat to their industry. Everyone will want to buy a car out of state.

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[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Literally impossible unless the cars have some kind of tracking software to monitor location.

and you know if its doing that, its not doing it without leaking your data to law enforcement and advertisers.

So, yeah, no thanks. Train cops to do their actual, legitimate jobs instead of letting them waste their time with actual fucking inhuman torture, and the issue would also be solved. and in the right way, instead of the invasive privacy destroying way.

[–] rooster_butt@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Modern cars read the speed limit signs. Like my 2021 rav4 does it so it's not just the techy cars.

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