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[–] [email protected] 84 points 11 months ago (2 children)

His documentaries, especially his TV show, were a bit on the questionable side, but I'm sorry he died so young.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I will never forgive this guy for at the very least being a major contributing factor in having the supersize fries taken off the menu >:(

[–] [email protected] 87 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I’d say he single handedly killed the supersize option at McDonald’s. Though I don’t think this was the point of his documentary, I still think it’s a massive accomplishment by a single person.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well it's debatable just how much influence it had, officially McDonald's says that the documentary had no effect on their decision.

Buttttt they took it off the menu and started highlighting their healthy options just 6 weeks after it's release, which is a pretty standard corporate timeline to react to something sooo yea

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Admitting a negative documentary impacted your decision making just invites more to be made. Obviously it was the reason. Obviously they'll never say that.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well not necessarily, they could have spun it into a positive "We're a company who listens blah blah blah"

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

Yes, and then they would get 1000x more blah blah blah. That was the point of the comment you replied to.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We used that size to share, sad times indeed.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

There are plenty of calories to share with several people in a large fry.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Would have to say very much so and ended the trend of bigger and bigger food and beverage options. I remember there being a coffee chain that was competing with Starbucks at the time that introduced a full 44oz frappucino-type drink, and convenience stores starting to introduce 52oz sodas. Seemed like the sky was the limit back then but all those super-sized options disappeared within about a year after Super Size Me.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (5 children)

His TV show had the absolute worst argument in favor of raising minimum wage that I have ever seen, which really pissed me off because he could have made a legitimate argument. But no, he challenged he and his girlfriend to live on the equivalent of minimum wage at the time for 30 days. His girlfriend insisted they continue their organic vegan lifestyle, so they blew through their food budget, and then one of them got a not especially serious cold and they went to the ER over it.

If you're going to live like you're on minimum wage, show how hard it is just to survive on that. Don't do that first world middle class problems bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

By blowing through the budget they showed that choosing to eat healthy food is not an option on minimum wage. Surviving is too low a bar to get the point across.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 11 months ago (2 children)

If you're trying to show that to a general audience, don't insist you eat a diet that most of them wouldn't eat whether or not it was affordable. All it makes you look like is someone who grew up in privilege and doesn't understand poverty or the need to make sacrifices because of it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

First, I'll agree it wasn't a completely objective approach to trying to live on minimum wage.

All it makes you look like is someone who grew up in privilege and doesn’t understand poverty or the need to make sacrifices because of it.

I think that was also part of the point. He was reflecting much of his audience showing just how incompatible a privileged lifestyle is with the majority of the working poor. His conclusion wasn't "this is the way to do this" but instead "Look how bad I screwed this up trying to live even partially like I normally did".

It was an imperfect episode, but is one of the few videoed storytelling of someone with means trying to experience a lower standard of living than they are used to. To-date its the only one I can think of that showed some of the in-the-trenches difficulty of trying to find housing, a job, transportation to the job, food budgeting, and uninsured healthcare interactions and costs. For a 45 minute runtime with explanation of the premise to conclusion, it had some value.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

I just don't agree. I think people looked at that and said that it proved that it's easy to live on minimum wage as long as you don't insist on eating things like organic food.

What it needed to prove is that it isn't possible to live on minimum wage.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Organic is always more expensive, but vegan can be done dirt cheap

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Agreed, but she insisted on organic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

His show had an episode with a mom trying to drink like her college daughter. The mom starts going out most nights, eating like shit and feeling bad during the day. The part that has stayed with me for almost 20 years is how the mom was definitely having a good time towards the middle of the month. When I first saw it I was a little younger than the daughter and now I am a little younger than the mom was at filming. When I question if I should start drinking more again, I think of that lady and say "Maybe."

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

FWIW "Nickle and Dimed" was far better then Spurlock's schlock.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Wonder if McDonald's gave him cancer?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 11 months ago

Most likely it was alcohol. It's known to cause some types of cancer.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

His insinuation that McDonald's caused liver damage in his documentary was pretty questionable especially when it came out that he'd failed to mention his severe alcoholism.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

have you seen "supersize me - with whisky"? it's hilarious. highly recommend.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 11 months ago

died Thursday in New York from complications of cancer.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's the last time I eat McDs

[–] [email protected] 43 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Also the alcohol:

he had "consistently been drinking since the age of 13.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

turns out that he felt shitty not because of the food but because he was alcohol detoxing at the same time of his mcd experiment.

I will agree fast food isn't good for you, but at the same time it's also not going to do what spurlock portrayed. just take a look at the workers who have been at a place for more than a few years.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The funny part is he admits in the documentary that his own brother told him the whole thing was bullshit. He told him (correctly) that there are people who eat McDonalds every single day of their lives.

Like this guy- https://www.businessinsider.com/man-eaten-record-34k-mcdonalds-big-macs-people-thought-dead-2024-3

[–] [email protected] 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In order to maintain his health, he doesn't eat french fries and walks six miles a day.

"... And takes a massive amount of undisclosed statins and BP meds," probably lol. Seriously, I have to wonder though if people like this are bankrolled in some way by fast food to offset the negative publicity they get. Then they (under privacy laws) must offset this stuff privately with their doctor.

Came up with a new song, Nights in white statinnnnn. Needs some work, though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

He was the real cautionary tale of the doc, that level of "Hail-corperate-my-identity-is-consuming" is just sad.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

who hasen’t. wait a sec

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

I guess while I'm on my righteous health craze, I'll skip the booze.

All that just to have your legacy be sensationalism. Sometimes I'm glad I'm an introvert.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It's really not a hard thing to cut out... Especially with how much I've heard they cost these days, for the exact same shitty product.

I used to go once in a while to get their shitty cheap breakfast burritos (thinking about it makes my mouth water), 2 for 2 Dollars.

Last time I went I was out almost 5 dollars for the exact same shitty tiny breakfast burritos.

I can get a giant hand made breakfast burrito for less than twice that. Or a carton of beaten eggs, Mexican cheese tortillas and sausage for the same price

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Worked at McDonald's. Many many eons ago. Used to open on the weekends for them. That meant I had to change the grease out of the fryer vets. The management there only gave us a quarter per hour for break, so during my dumping of the oil I would swipe a few of those burritos and jam on them in the back. Very fond memories of those.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

the rare self me tooer

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He's a good lesson in why you can't take a documentary as 100% truth, no matter how good it is or how much the message confirms your biases.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because years later the guy in the documentary could die from cancer?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Because he was a massive alcoholic and was experiencing the effects of detox and passing it off as what he was doing for the documentary

They said "he is" not "here is"

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