politics
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
As others are reporting, he also said he would have certified the results.
So he's mostly trying to have both ways.
This is the same asshole who, after people calling him out for not being a voice for POC (aka 'skin folk ain't always kinfolk ') said that these were the words of the modern Grand Dragons. This fucking idiot is calling the left the KKK (as do all Republicans because they can't admit the ancestors of their party were the KKK) because he's just a brown voice for white supremacy and the party/culture of POC oppression and murder.
Like any Republican voters would vote him into office? He must be delusional.
He is a billionaire in biotech/pharmaceutical space. He is auditioning for FDA chief of HHS secretary spot. He will say anything and everything to get that spot. He will even throw the entire Indian community under the bus in a heartbeat if it benefits him.
Voice of POC my ass. He is a voice for POS for sure.
Vivek is the guy all the old white republicans are referring to when they backpedal and say “no, wait, what I just said isn’t racist because I have a friend who is a brown person!”
Vivek doesn’t realize that he’s that guy.
Also, knowing the GOP base’s predilections, I give him precisely 0% chance in the Republican primary.
He didn’t get the bump in polls he hoped for in the debate so he’s going more extreme. It’s a bold move but won’t help, and only dooms his chances of winning a general election by saying this.
Well, he is correct in that it would have be historic. A bigger opportunity for Pence right now would be to have some balls and a backbone, call out Trump for the criminal, insurrectionist, and traitor that he is, and lead the Republican party back to its so-called morality, law-and-order, and "character matters" roots. I'm not a fan of Pence by any means (I totally disagree with him on nearly every issue), but this is the real historic tragedy of Pence and his political career.
Yup, and such an easy way to stand out from the other candidates.
This dude sounds dangerous as fuck.
He has zero government experience, has never held a real job, and he doesn't understand how the nation operates. Pretty much a complete moron with money.
That worked well for the last Republican presidential candidate to win.
Dude literally jumped into the Republican party pitching what they were all thinking
He also pitched his campaign finding as a pyramid scheme. If you recruit people to fund his campaign, whatever they give to him, you get 10 percent back.
Why are you talking about Trump under a Ramaswamy post? ;)
This is an intelligent guy. He isn't firing from the hip. He's saying what the party wants to hear to try and get more attention on him. I wonder if he's trying to be Trump's VP candidate.
I'm not saying I agree with any of his shit, just saying this is calculated on his part. I also don't really agree with Pence with much of anything, but certifying the election results and being against the Jan 6th insurrection is something I appreciate.
Let's face it, his best play to become President is to be Trump's VP. It is very possible that Trump wins the election while in prison, and I doubt he will be let out to take his oath of office. Boom! Instant President Ramaswamy!
In many fields, the best players often come in second or third place consistently. This is because some reckless person risks way too much to come in first. The risky move has 90% chance to fail, but someone makes the 10% chance and wins big.
This is his play. Randomly guessing 70% of GOP voters consider Jan 6th a dangerous thing. He's letting all of the other candidates fight over the 70% while he tries to get the other 30% vote. He pretty much can't win with the traditional campaigning methods (although on average they are more likely to succeed) so he has to go risky. He's stuck with that position if it succeeds.
Or he could be a true believer. I lean towards most of it being a calculated play, though.
I wonder if he’s trying to be Trump’s VP candidate.
I think that apart from Mike Pence and Chris Christie it's clear that none of these Republican candidates have any delusions of securing the GOP nomination. They're all auditioning to be Trump's VP and I guarantee they admit it in private. So I agree with you here. Ramaswamy is saying what he needs to in order to get Trump's attention and win over the MAGA crowd.
I think it goes one step further than a VP audition. I think this rich guy saw Trump’s family members enrich themselves off of his presidency, and he’s thinking he could do the same as Trump’s VP.
My bullshit meter with Ramaswamy is off the charts. He will say anything if he thinks it will give him traction with the Trump crowd.
This guy does not realize he's too brown for that shit
They will absolutely throw him in the gas chambers if he helps them get into power
Him, MTG, and Clarence Thomas should form a Leapords Eating Faces club.
Agreed. He says anything outrageous that will grab him headlines and based on how often I’m now seeing articles on him, it’s working. I don’t think it will earn him the nomination but I doubt that’s his true goal anyway.
In the past, I think I would laugh off a candidate like this, and assume what he says is not what he means. After Trump I no longer would take that risk. 
Brown Republican, so fucking dumb. Nobody on the right is going to vote for this dude.
He's not running to get elected. He's running to get famous and to raise money. Plus to distract from his own legal issues.
I think he's running to scoop up the Trump voters in the event that Trump is disqualified from running or is otherwise unavailable. If the Trumplicans are forced to abandon ship, he wants to be the obvious next choice.
But you're right about his ultimate goal. I don't believe he thinks he has a good chance to actually win the presidency. If he is the republican nominee, there are going to be an awful lot of racists staying home on election day.
A historic opportunity to end American democracy??
No, Pence did the right thing.
Pence did the only legal thing. He did the bare minimum and won't even own it.
He did the only thing possible. He did not have the option to send the electors back to their states or delay the certification of the election. Had he tried, his largely ceremonial role in the process would have been bypassed, and he would be now indicted as a coconspirator.
Edit: a typo on that last word, and my autocorrect's attempt to make sense of my gibberish has given me an excellent idea for a themed drink for your sentencing watching parties: The coconut-spirit-orange. Coconut rum and oj. You're welcome.
Amazingly.
What he’s talking about sounds like a mess. Single day voting on Election Day? What about people that are abroad, military or otherwise? People who can’t vote that day (medical procedure, etc). Then, having another election to decide again?! What if that one is in question? I don’t know shit about fuck when it comes to election law, but this doesn’t pass the sniff test at all.
Can you imagine if this pinwheel were to actually hold an office? Whichever way the right wing wind blows, he's there.
He also put on full display his ignorance of how government works. Witch is OK since his followers are ignorant too.
Here’s what I would have said, we need single-day voting on Election Day. We need paper ballots, and we need government-issued ID matching the voter file.
It's like he doesn't know that older, more conservative Republicans actually love mail-in ballots and use it extensively.
I don’t understand what he’s saying. What’s his speech got to do with the events on Jan 6? What would that speech have done during the events of the 6th? Somebody please help me understand.