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What's the reason for the empty comments, lately? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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In the last few weeks, I frequently see some empty comments. It's just the username and no text beneath.

Is there a deeper reason behind this? Do people nowadays strip away the text instead of deleting a comment? Or did some script surface that 'makes the internet forget'? First I thought people did this before deleting a comment and the deletion just didn't get federated. But I scrolled through some older posts and they also still have comments like that, so that can't be it. Right?

Can anyone educate me?

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

hmmmm ive seen image-only comments viewed like this on lemmy when sent from non-lemmy platforms

example

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago (8 children)

[–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago

that's empty.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

Empty when viewing from Voyager

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

Empty here too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Empty for me on Jerboa

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Empty on Sync.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Empty on Thunder.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This comment does not show an image when viewed on lemmy.world. The image is also missing viewed on lemm.ee. The original Mastodon post does have an image.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you able to read this text?

I haven't seen any issues on jerboa

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Sure. I can read 99% of the comments normally. Thx I'm gonna try Jerboa again and see if I can reproduce it.

[+] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

[deleted]

[–] [email protected] 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can't see any gif, using Boost.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

For some reason, attachments to comments posted from Kbin/Mbin don't seem to appear for Lemmy users.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

'Bin follows the same format as Mastodon for inline images, which is different from Lemmy.
Mastodon puts the details for an inline image inside an 'attachment' field, with nothing in the 'content' fields, whereas Lemmy doesn't use an 'attachment' field at all for them, and includes the HTML for img src in the content.
It's always been the case that Mastodon didn't show images from Lemmy comments. I don't know if the reverse is a new thing or if it's always been like that.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Isn't ActivityPub a wonderful protocol

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know if the reverse is a new thing or if it's always been like that.

Here's a comment in a lemmy issue describing mastodon images not appearing in lemmy from last year. Since the issue was closed three days after 0.19.3 released I had expected it to work in the next version 0.19.4, but it appears that was not the case.

Edit: While I'm here, I noticed piefed also doesn't support it, so was considering opening an issue to support attachments, but I imagine there wouldn't be much desire to do so until mastodon integration is more of a real thing? though I think other software does it, like Plemora/Akkoma/Iceshrimp, I didn't check but did see the code for it being discussed for plemora at least

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Re: your edit - please feel free to open an Issue for PieFed about it. It's MBIN content in Lemmy's communities, so it's something that needs attention (we should show it, even if Lemmy doesn't). I'll have a crack at fixing it next time I'm working on the code.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Can't see it on desktop web.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

The procedure I use for posting from Mbin is:

Try to just attach direct from the source with ![](https://whatever)
If that doesn’t work, attach the image to the message and save
And then edit the message and insert the self hosted image using that same markdown

Thus it’ll show on both mbin and Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same. I've gotten a few replies with a blank comment. It's weird.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Fair enough. At least I'm not getting crazy...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are you using the eternity app ?

Cause I have noticed deleted comments showing up as blank. While on the web version the show up as "deleted by Creator"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yes. I have like 3 different apps but I regularly use Eternity. I think you're right and a decent part if it is Eternity. Like half of the empty messages show up in other apps or the web interface. But not all of them. I don't quite think it's just deleted messages. Some others are definitely there and also don't show up in Eternity... Maybe it's a combination of factors. Honestly I didn't quite pay attention when I was using which app. I'm still trying to figure it out. But this definitely seems to be part of it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Sometimes when I'm randomly banned from speaking for no good reason at all, I test to see if I'm still banned by typing 'A' & deleting it. This account has been muted for a week & it looks like it's finally lifted. For now.

My stuff still shows up as 'deleted by creator'. I've noticed the blanks, too. I use Sync for Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hmmh. I guess Lemmy should display that kind of information more prominently. But there isn't much progress UI wise... Guess you could just look it up in the modlog. Or do it like that 😆 Thanks for the report anyways.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (4 children)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, that's a bracket but very close to being invisible.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

I can see the character it creates from Firefox flatpak.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

An empty quote seems to work, at least on sync

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I had a comment removed from c/veganscomplaining or whatever their community is that showed up like that when they censored it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well that shouldn't happen. I guess it's technically possible because I can also change my own comments and they're not signed or anything... But changing other people's comments is kind if lying and being disingenuous. Either it's a technical issue, or your comment was so offensive that it warranted an exception to the rule, or the mods/admins don't know what is right and what is wrong.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

Nah it wasn't that bad, like I didn't say slurs or anything but I did say some pretty non-vegan shit lmao so I get it. Still though that may be why some posts are blank, I doubt I'm the only one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It's a hashtag. Pretty much invisible but I can still see it.