Men - you are thin therefore we don’t make pants long enough for you
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The opposite issue for me: Big ass, big thighs, short legs.
I've given up and now I tend to just buy women's pants.
That is better than the opposite. You can have your pants hemmed and taken in where required. It is harder to add material.
I feel like people these days don't utilize tailors enough. You can improve a lot of off the rack clothing.
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Yeah, I've had that problem. One of the nice things about Reddit was r/tallfashion -- acc had links to stuff with decent waist and inside leg. Have found some women's trousers pretty good for that too.
But women's pants are cut for people that don't have genitals sticking out of their crotches. How do you avoid uncomfortable smashing?
Pick ones with a loose fit haha. There are plenty around.
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Women's pants are also bad about that. I was underweight from stress during my breakup and most women's tall sizes start at a "6" which is like a men's 32, more or less. I was not that big at that point. And to make matters worse, many of the allegedly tall pants just have a longer inseam and are not longer in the rise, as though all difference in height is just legs.
Gap makes tall men's (I just checked and they go down to 32"waist and have 36" inseam and right now the slim fit is so, so cheap in price) and women's pants, they actually do make them tall not just longer inseam. I am not tall enough for their tall pants but get the best fit by buying tall and hemming them, because standard fit (to the extent it even exists in women's clothing) is wedgie city, not long enough. They also make tall shorts, which is amazing,they actually fit.
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And the back pockets are always sewn shut on anything not jeans.
Ok, why the fuck are pockets sewn shut at all??? I'm a guy and I see clothes like this too. It pisses me off so much, it was so close to being useful, most of a pocket is already there, why would they just give up?
I think the real reason is so that the pockets dont get snagged or deformed while a product is being transported / stored / displayed prior to being sold.
fake pockets look nice. If you need functional ones, just pop the stitching. Usually, the stitching keeping the pocket closed is very weak compared to normal seams.
+1 for the life hack and restoring some faith in humanity.
This isn't a life hack. Pockets are intentionally sewn shut for the manufacturing and shipping process. You are supposed to open them when you buy them.
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Probably for tax purposes.
Of you open them is it just butt or is there a hidden pocket?
You can easily answer this question yourself by looking inside/turning the pants inside out.
Tried this and the lady said she's pressing charges. Thanks for nothing.
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It’s an actual pocket but I didn’t find this out until I was an adult - I thought that’s how they were made for a reason and if I cut the thread, it would make a hole in the pants. Nope, regular pockets just sewn shut for some reason.
I think I was in my 30’s before someone told me the truth. It was a man IIRC lol…but yeah my mom never knew I guess, friends at school, etc, or if they did they didn’t tell me because I guess they never noticed.
Things will only have useful size metrics when the buyers want useful size metrics.
Men's pants come with useful size metrics because they're useful and we attach very little meaning to the measurement of men's pants.
Women's pants come with stupid size metrics because we attach a lot of meaning to the measurement of women's pants.
It's the same reason condoms sizes are all on the spectrum of large to extra large without actually providing a length and diameter.
When was the last time you measured your waist and then tried on a pair of pants?
Men's clothing has tones of vanity sizing these days.
The cuts of fabric are cut with dies. A layer of fabric is place down and a press presses the cutting die down to cut out the shape. A cheap manufacturer over stacks how many sheets are cut at ones. Top layer is going to be bigger then the bottom layer.
I expect there is much more hand cutting going on than you realize. To have multiple styles and different cuts would require giant warehouses of dies. Those aren't cheap and wouldn't last long in a production environment. Any change would require a new die. The machine shop would need to be as big as the cut sew shop.
One skilled (or trained) operator can change from pants to shirts on a whim. You'll notice almost all clothing is made in far off places where labour is cheap. Not to say there isn't die cut stuff, but overwhelmingly the textile industry is hand made.
These things are how multiple layers of fabric gets cut.
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It’s the same reason condoms sizes are all on the spectrum of large to extra large without actually providing a length and diameter.
In Germany the packaging indicates the [Edit: ~~diameter~~ half circumference] in millimeters ±2mm tolerance. Because, you know, size matters here.
Half circumference? Why?
(Yeah I zoomed in. It's 52mm, which is fractionally over 2 inches)
The literal translation of what's on the box makes it easier to understand:
Width of the condom when laid flat: 52 mm
It's simply the easiest width measure you can do yourself.
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Bullshit! I wear size 34 pants with a belt to keep them on and they are 36.25in around.
Yeah, I wear 33W pants but they measure 36" around the belt loops. This isn't the result of vanity sizing, though - men used to wear pants that were very high-waisted, but as pants got lower over the decades they kept using the "nominal" waist measurement so that men would still know what size to buy, since the circumference around the hips (where most pants are cut today) is about 3" ~~less~~ more than the circumference of what used to be the waist.
Pleats are another useless holdover from the high-waisted era, as they made it easier for pants to expand down over the hips and thighs.
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100% men's clothing are vanity sized and it's worked so well men didn't notice.
Woah there, men's pants aren't size 30, that's a worthless measurement. We use the inseam too, so they are the right length and the right width. :p
Ie. 32x32
Yup. Unfortunately, it's also incredibly hard to find anything outside of "normal" ranges. I'm tall and skinny, and finding pants is... a challenge, so I just buy a width size higher and wear a belt. I'm a 33x34, but generally buy 34x34 (used to fit 32x34, but those days are long past). Sometimes I need to go up to 36x34.
Unfortunately, that isn’t quite right for guys. Skinny, straight, relaxed…. All these types changes the fit and sizing. I wear one waist size larger for skinny.
Women’s are much worse sizing wise but the difference is that guys jeans generally just look acceptable . When a woman gets jeans that fit her correctly, they can look amazing. I doubt guys ever get compliments on the fit of their jeans.
For women, they could use 6- measurements to standardize it but unfortunately a lot of people fall for vanity sizing and don’t want to accept that they gained weight.
It happens for guys clothing too. If it is a letter based sizing there are huge variations in sizing between clothing companies. For high end brands I wear a large, at Walmart or other box stores, I wear a small.
Yeah, t-shirts absolutely suck. I'm thin, tall, and like to wear my pants lower on my hips, so shirt length is absolutely essential. In most cases, L is an inch or so longer than M, so I get L even though M would fit my chest better. I honestly wish they would just make a size between M and L, like M+, which would be just be a bit longer M (like 2 extra inches).
We really need separate length and width measurements. I'm tall and very skinny. I usually go for a medium, but sometimes even a small, so my shirts are frequently close to too short. If I go larger than I look like I'm swamped in my shirt and it looks horrible.
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Yeah I gave up on jeans and bought a dozen pairs of the exact same pants that fit well, then dyed them.
Sometimes you are different sizes in the same brand. And I don't mean you might need a small shirt and large pants. No. Sometimes, this pair of pants only fit in large, and this pair of pants only fit in medium. Same brand.
so how do we buy clothes online?
I often buy from poshmark, and only listing's that include measurements of the garments.
Agreed, though I usually just buy brands that I already have items from so I'm familiar with their sizing.
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Ah no, some brands XXL is really just L+.
This is a real example from a somewhat quality brand.
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Incorrect. I'm a 32" waste in jeans, yet my waste is much larger than 32".
Uhm, maybe you should got see a gastroenterologist if your shits are larger than 32"
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They describing my dark souls character
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