So anyway, I found myself aligned with Nancy Pelosi and against Bernie Sanders and AOC
And I figured hey you know there’s nothing there that I might need to re examine, I’m sure me and Pelosi are the ones that have it figured out here
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AOC and Bernie know that if they don't toe the line, they'll be blamed for the democrats losing (they'll be blamed anyway).
They did the best they could to get the democrats to adopt winning policies, but they failed.
Bernie doesn't give a fuck. (Who blames him for what)
He does nothing for image. Everything for principle.
Bernie does do things for image for the purpose of principle though - he will happily fall in line publicly over politics if it gives him political clout to make workers' lives better.
Sounds a lot like doing something on principle to me.
I don't disagree, but I did want to highlight that while not everything he does directly helps working people he's always focused on that goal. Other politicians may want to be loved but Bernie just does it for the end goal.
(You can find some hilarious interviews with him about merchandising things like Birdie and the Mittens meme - he acknowledges that it's useful for fund raising and visibility but he really has no patience for it)
Just like how nobody blamed Bernie and the left in 2016 when he fell in line after they told him
Yeah, they said hey you should forgive hundreds of billions of dollars worth of student loans, spend a trillion dollars on climate change, boost unions and domestic manufacturing and reduce income inequality for the first time in God knows how long, all while digging out from Covid better than literally any other first world country
And the Democrats said naw if we did all that I am sure the media would just fail to mention that any of it happened because they are partisan corporate hacks, leaving people with some kind of impression that Biden was an unimpressive nothingburger, so why… uh, wait…
Wait they didn’t do any of that, did they? Help me out
Also, this whole campaign has really highlighted that it's Biden's stubbornness and ego that's the problem. People are tiptoeing around the issue because in the end grandpa stopping driving is his decision and if you come at him hard he's likely to dig his heels in.
Except the state can take Grandpa's license away. Just saying.
Yes. I'm a leftist, not someone that blindly follows charismatic politicians. And Im not gonna oppose something just because a politician I dislike advocates for it. Policy>personality
I also disagree with Pelosi's reasoning for wanting Biden to drop out. She just thinks he can't win. I think Joe should step aside since he enacts genocidal policies.
Por que no los dos?
I honestly feel that AOC and Bernie are just desperately trying to avoid a Trump dictatorship and that means voting Democrat no matter what. The Democratic candidate at this time is Joe Biden. They'll do what they have to to avoid that fate but it doesn't mean they've given up on what makes them great.
Edit: this is why https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2024/07/biden-endorse-harris-vp-aoc-bernie-sanders.html
Ours is not to wonder why. Ours is but to vote and die.
She is one to talk.
Remember that billionaire wedding during COVID, with Nancy Pelosi front and center and happy as could be? There really should have been a Democratic rebellion at that. She was just doing everything she possibly could to undercut Democratic messaging for her stupid fucking social life. And then she went home and traded some stocks.
i guess it takes one to know one in this case.
Age is more than just a number. She's older than him but she can still do the political math better.
(note, this is far from an endorsement of her. I've been trying to vote her out since I moved to SF 13 years ago)
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I mean you don’t have to like her but she did step down from the speakership when the time was right.
Pelosi’s office in a statement said she had not spoken to Biden since returning to California on Friday — and questioned the reporting about her conversation with the president. “These sources are not good sources,” her spokesperson said.
These sources are fake sources. The story is transparently intended to force her to make public statements about Biden's competence and quality as a candidate. The author should be publicly shamed for lying.
Biden needs to fuck off.
You are not wrong
Pot, meet kettle.
Harris and a progressive vp would win, biden needs to go away now and enjoy being a old person
....but i wont do that
She was using a Ouija board to contact an ancestor but got her wires crossed and ended up in Joe's mind, being as it is half-way down the tunnel towards the light.