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[–] BigTrout75@lemmy.world 75 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Valve is the only good thing in the hellscape. Linux support, cheap games and free multiplayer.

Who else provides this?

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 17 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Did you read the article? One of their really own says they are to blame for the hellscape!

Valve's implementation of its in-game stores and the Steam marketplace, Varoufakis says, emerged from a need to balance monetization with a fear that if the company didn't create its own systems for exchange between players, they would "take it outside"

They are a for profit company, they most likely support linux so that people don't "take it outside" their useless proprietary launcher.

[–] SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago (3 children)

"...their useless proprietary launcher." Steam is by far the least useless launcher out there. Steam has so many incredibly useful features such as remote play together, community controller layouts, the workshop, cloud saves, family library sharing, etc. Not to mention that they continue to keep adding new features that no other launcher is even close to having such as the new game recording feature that is currently in beta.

Sure, Valve charge a pretty decent amount to game developers for the sale of a game, but they provide a load of features in exchange.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

And it's been said by many developers that they literally 100x their sales when they go to Steam. PCs are an open ecosystem.

Not directed at OP.

[–] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

What do I run Steam on 🤔🤔🤔🤔. Can't remember on such short notice. Any ideas?

[–] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

It's primary purpose is DRM which is a net burden to society. Everything else you list is to help you forget that.

30% is mad decent. For all the haters on California's insane tax, steam takes a 3x larger cut on all income, and California build roads with it. Steam maybe develops half-baked features.

[–] nooneescapesthelaw@mander.xyz 9 points 7 months ago

The steam drm is basically non-existent, in fact pirated games use steam specifically to participate in multiplayer with cracked versions

[–] SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a developers choice to release on Steam with DRM, Valve does not enforce it, there are games with no DRM on Steam.

Half baked features? I don't remember the last time I tried using one of Steam's features that I listed (and others I didn't list) and it didn't work incredibly well.

Don't get me wrong, I believe DRM generally only causes problems for paying customers and I'd be much happier without it, but I think Steam's DRM is one of the least invasive solutions that currently exist.

Exactly. Steam DRM is totally up to the developers to use or not. So don't be mad at Valve for devs using it, be mad at the devs. But remember, if they aren't using Steam's DRM, they're probably going to use something much worse.

Steam is an incredibly user-friendly launcher. They have useful features, and I've honestly never had any problems with anything on their platform. It just works, and that's about all I can ask for as a user.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 3 points 7 months ago

You can manage the file destinations and launch .exe's without loading the Steam client.

Are you sure you know enough about this to be loudly proclaiming your hot take without looking like a jackass?

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

you don't need a third party launcher to run software

[–] SynonymousStoat@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're right, I don't, but it sure as hell makes it a lot easier to keep the hundreds of games that I have purchased organized. Not to mention I don't have to manually keep each of the 95 games I currently have installed updated or have to worry about backing up game saves or having them available across multiple different devices with zero effort from myself.

Steam isn't perfect, but it does add a massive amount of value for consumers like myself who take advantage of a lot of the different features that are mostly unique to Steam as a platform.

Also, I believe when a developer releases a game on Steam they are given the opportunity to use Steamworks, which provides a lot of potentially useful tools for a game deceloper.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

You’re right, I don’t, but it sure as hell makes it a lot easier to keep the hundreds of games that I have purchased organized.

You are trading your privacy and freedom over your disorganization and lazyness

Steam isn’t perfect, but

Reddit has many of the fancy comsumer features you seem to love perhaps you should go back there

[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 7 months ago

One of their former own, who is now trying to drum up publicity to sell his book.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

they most likely support linux so that people don’t “take it outside”

I'm amazed you're attempting to make "company supports platform desired by customers" sound like a bad thing.

their useless proprietary launcher.

You should make it less obvious you have axe to grind, because this statement shows that your opinion isn't really valid about PC gaming. I'd love to see you find a launcher that offers everything that Valve's "useless" launcher.

I'll wait.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Instead of waiting you could start to use software that doesn't require you to go through a third party proprietary launcher

https://libregaming.org/play-libre-games/

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'd love to see you find a launcher that offers everything that Valve's "useless" launcher.

https://libregaming.org/play-libre-games/

L. O. L. When asked for a launcher that is feature comparable, you give me that?

I've played a few of the libre games linked there. I'll stick with steam, thanks but no thanks.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I’ve played a few of the libre games linked there. I’ll stick with steam, thanks but no thanks.

no problems, you can play these games anytime you want, you don't need a proprietary launcher to run these

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Sure, but I can watch paint dry without needing a proprietary launcher too.

Free != Good, but I won't yuck someone else's yum just because I'm not a fan. I'm just not going to pretend it's a good alternative.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 5 points 7 months ago

Oh no, they listened to their demographic and gave people what they wanted so they didn't go elsewhere?! How fucking terrible.

[–] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] archchan@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, they do a decent job providing Linux compat for games they support. They just don't do anything on the launcher side.

[–] PenisDuckCuck9001 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Doing nothing is still more than some companies do. Some go out of their way to ensure their game won't run on Linux.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Fortunately, it's mostly MP games, and I very rarely play MP games.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 7 months ago

Then there's me that pretty much only plays multiplayer games... 😥

Blessed are those that still find joy playing single player games

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

GOG doesn't have regional pricing.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm unclear as to whether you're saying this is a positive or negative.

I see it as a positive - it means they have a price and that price is the same for everyone without favoritism.

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Negative. As someone who lives in a 3rd-world country where minimum wage is $0.75/hr, even a senior accountant position would be lucky to earn $750/mo working 10-12hours a day. So pardon me for not favoring the idea of "equals price for everyone".

For us down here, it's either Steam Regional Pricing or the high sea.

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 46 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Is it a hellscape?

The last two GOTYs have no micro transactions. The new Elden Ring DLC is more of a traditional expansion

Indie gaming is alive and well and it’s easier than ever to develop and publish.

[–] holgersson 8 points 7 months ago

It says "digital economic landscape", so not just games and microtransactions, but having a distribution platform vendor-lock you in, not actually owning pieces of media you purchased on that platform and in a broader sense even art as a commodity

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 6 points 7 months ago

Not to mention the infinite supply of awesome indie games I have access to at the click of my mouse..

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago

Also all the live-service cash-grab high budget AAA keep failing one after another.

[–] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Hellscape? I guess my reality didnt get that memo.

Unless this is just about TF2. I don't know shit about tf.

[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

More broadly about companies not producing things but extracting “rent” from others by controlling a marketplace all others have to go through. The former economist in residence is promoting a new book he wrote, which I suppose I would have to read to fully understand his argument. The little bit I read in the article has not exactly convinced me, but more from the part that other companies he mentions like Apple and Amazon also produce products.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 points 7 months ago

I've read the book and I found it okay, but I read it not long after Shoshana Zuboff's Surveillance Capitalism, which I think tried to explain many of the same things that Technofeudalism does, but I feel Zuboff's take feels more fitting (though the two models aren't necessarily mutually exclusive)

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago

I think it's a little odd the article omits the fact that Yanis Varoufakis was also the Greek minister of finance for quite a while.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.run 28 points 7 months ago

I’m more inclined to blame Microsoft for innovating subscriptions for online multiplayer & MTXs on consoles. As well as advertising on dashboards and everywhere else.

[–] DAMunzy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Capitalism is what is going to kill Capitalism.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 3 points 7 months ago

No, all of us are. Capitalism is just the motive.

[–] fulg@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Amazon is a prime example

I see what you did there…

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago
[–] index@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Bro, no-one's clicking a link with "spyware" in the URL.

[–] ruse8145@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The most cleverly disguised url in history. Come on man, don't be ridiculous.

[–] Guntrigger@sopuli.xyz 7 points 7 months ago

I was semi-joking, but I also didn't click the link.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

That your alt account posting shady links?

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 points 7 months ago

That link from Kaspersky©?