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The concept as I understand it is that Threads has the sheer volume of content to completely drown out the existing Fedi content if it fully opens the floodgates. If that occurs and say 90% of content becomes Threads and then they start making Threads only extensions to Activity Pub, servers will have to start patching those in and the Activity Pub project is defacto owned by Meta.

People also have issues with the Meta content moderation and the population on Threads, but as you noted that's fixable on an individual and community level. The existential threat to the future of the Fediverse is why servers should defederate. Meta can't and shouldn't be trusted with any amount of power over this community project.

Because I remember this https://ploum.net/2023-06-23-how-to-kill-decentralised-networks.html

And it feels like deja vu.

I think the argument is that Meta would hoover up and profit from posts from people who don't consent to use it. AFAIK, you can't block an instance from seeing your posts and comments, so the only real option is defederation.

because fuck facebook and its ten other names and fuck zuckerberg too

I simply don’t trust Meta. That’s all.

Facebook bad.

Yes that's my whole take.

All the arguments were had here: https://sh.itjust.works/post/11011288

edit: and the subsequent vote where we decided to defederate: https://sh.itjust.works/post/11308397

Fascist-adjacent.

Overwhelmingly large.

E-mail does not work the same way.

Some more discussion on this old post here, both for and against

https://lemmy.ca/post/11771031

There's a lot of reactionary anti-corpo types here. There's really no good reason for users to want to defederate from a Facebook owned instance. It's also a pointless stance, as threads is a Twitter/mastodon style site and not really compatible with reddit/lemmy style sites.

There are some technical reasons to avoid federating for those hosting instances. The software forces local copies of everything users subscribe to which is a massive space concern. There's also a problem with performance of syncing that data for large instances that's already a problem with .world size instances, where it can take a day+ to process new comments.

I went to fedi to avoid big corporations and what they've done with social media. Why would I want their platform having access to my posts? I don't trust meta or any of the other big tech companies. In fact, the main mastodon instance I use blocks threads entirely and that's one of the reasons I joined it.

I can't stand what the internet is turning in to. Turn off moderation like it used to be. It used to be the wild west, now it's a dystopian hellscape. I prefer the wild west myself.

For me it's just "fuck Meta." Fuck that company for coming here.

Lots of people love to defederate anything at the drop of a hat.

That's it.

In reality, threads and lemmy aren't even the same type of thing and are unlikely to intersect on a regular basis, in the same way you don't see many posts from mastodon or pleroma.

One thing I find funny about the whole thing is meta is a bunch of corpos, so it isn't that hard to just get them to defederate from you if you're willing to grow a spine. My network is blocked, and I believe it's because I called the maintainer of fediblock a nazi gestapo a bunch of times and demanded they add my site to their list of wrongthinkers or I'd call them doubleplus ungood, thus getting on a list that mindless drones use because it's easier to just follow orders, regardless of where those orders come from.

lol

They don't like meta. Everything else is just justifying that.

Well, this was extremely disappointing. Only one person had a helpful reply, pointing to this link explaining the basics, a couple others vaguely gestured about their distaste of Meta, and everyone else demonstrated an even lesser understanding of the fediverse than I had started with. One particular flat-earther just called me a slag and posted a screenshot of themselves downvoting all my comments.