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[–] [email protected] 135 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Back when Obama made it where you couldn't be evicted and bailed out the auto industry, I had a friend that drove a car hauler. He wasn't paying his house payment and lived for free for a year, and only had a job because of the bailout. He talked mad shit about the bailout and about people living and not paying their rent. This is republikkklown logic. I was blown away and said to him, he wouldn't have a job or a place to live if it wasn't for that. He said he'd live somewhere else and get a different job.

Since then, he lives with his wife and child in his mom's house with a shit job and complains about people being on welfare. They don't get it.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 6 months ago (4 children)

If there’s any way they can punch down instead of address their own issues they’ll take it. It’s why they resort to going after made up nonsense or the most vulnerable.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Yeah, but he deserved that, unlike those lazy librulz.

[–] [email protected] 100 points 6 months ago (2 children)

“I’m using affordable care act! I don’t want Obamacare!”

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago (2 children)

“Keep your filthy government hands out of my Medicare!”

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"I've been on food stamps and welfare. Anybody help me out? No. No."

Actor Craig T Nelson on how the government never helped him.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So help me there was some big deal right wing personality who talked about how the government shouldn't subsidize education by saying that when he was a kid he wanted an education so he... went down to the public library and read books there. Not a hint of irony. Can't remember exactly who it was, but the dissonance stuck with me.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I literally knew a girl who said this. She truly had no idea that they were the same thing, but rattled on about wanting it gone while benefiting from it.

I also knew an older woman who hated Obama and said "he's arrogant for naming that after himself." She didn't believe me that her favorite channel was the one who named it after him unofficially and that its official name was ACA.

They truly just repeat bullshit until it sticks, and it usually works on the people who don't bother to diversify their information sources. It's so goddamn frustrating.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

She didn't believe me that her favorite channel was the one who named it after him unofficially and that its official name was ACA.

That can't be true, because I've heard it called Obamacare 30 times. Everyone knows it!

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Temporarily embarrassed millionaires…

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Te only reason they're not a millionaire yet is because of all the illegal immigrants and minorities taking all the jobs...probably

[–] [email protected] 55 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"Social Security's great for the old folks, but there's no way it'll be around when we're old"

Votes for the guy trying to destroy social security.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean, technically that's correct, if they keep voting for the guy trying to destroy social security lol

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The amount of people I see being payed minimum wage but dont want a living wage is insane. I don't get it

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (5 children)

Same vibe as:

"I won't work overtime because I end up losing money on taxes"

That's not how tax brackets work!

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

I don't need no Obummercare, I'm covered by the Affordable Care Act!

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

To be fair it's not hypocritical to use service you're entitled to and still be against it. After all, you paid for it with your taxes.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

But voting against it to remove its benefit to others is the hypocrisy. For instance, a cousin of mine was on her parents' insurance until the cutoff of 26 because of Obamacare and was all about getting rid of it. I would point out how she was only insured because of it (this was before her being 26 and booted off) and asked her what her next plan for being insured would be. Of course she didn't think that far ahead and just said she would be 26 by the time anything changed so it wouldn't matter.

The party of grifters is aptly put.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago (4 children)
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[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

I swear we're living in a season of South Park

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago

But they're only going to repeal Obamacare, not the Affordable Care Act!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

I'm not American, but this happens a lot more than you'd think.

I live in Canada.

A relative of a friend actually voted for a party called "the People's party of Canada", and one of their goals as a party was to eliminate subsidized housing. That relative of my friend.... lived in subsidized housing and was not able to afford to have a home if not subsidized.

They literally voted for a party that, if they had won, would have made them homeless.

I don't think that the PPC won a single district (giving them no seats in government); much to their benefit and their disappointment.

Schools really need to teach critical thinking.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

When you’re mad for needing healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Reminds me of all my union brothers who vote for anti union conservatives

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Cool meme, but surely you realize that using a system and being against the system are not in conflict.

Then again if they like the system and think it shouldn't be dismantled and still vote for someone who wants to dismantle, that's dumb stupid.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (4 children)

To be fair, it's a flawed argument.

You can be against Google and Apple and still use a smartphone.

You can be against a genocide being sponsored with your tax dollars and still work and pay tax.

And yes, you can use the healthcare system that exists today and still want a different one tomorrow.

Or do you think that advocates of universal healthcare are also hypocrites for using Obamacare?

[–] [email protected] 39 points 6 months ago

You're correct on all those, but OP was talking about people who praise the Affordable Care Act but vote for politicians who say they want to get rid of Obamacare. Those people aren't using the system but want better, they are just ignorant that the two are the same thing.

Now we absolutely could do better, but it's better than what we had, and Republicans still want to get rid of it, even with less ties to Obama in name now. They truly hate people.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

but the implication is that they are voting for the only party who doesnt want to expand healthcare or make it better in absolutely any way.

even if they think the ACA is flawed and should be fixed, they are still not voting for the party to fix it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Well, for almost a decade the GOP has had time to come up with their vision. They ran on "Repeal and Replace" in the 2016 cycle. But when it came time to vote to repeal, they still didn't have a replace option.

Prices didn't go down when the 2018 tax cuts reduced corporate tax by about 30%, I doubt when the ACA gets repealed and insurance companies can drop the uninsurable people they will lower the prices for healthy Americans, because they are already anchored at the higher price.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

None of those analogies are applicable here. It’s more like voting against building codes when you live on a fault line.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

You can mathematically group the people in your life in such a way so that half of the people you know are stupider than the other half.
I swear to fuckin' god, man, politics make it real easy to tell who goes in which half. It's not a perfect method, but it works at least 85% of the goddamned time.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

In Kansas it's a hot issue to expand ACA benefits and has widely popular support. Yet we for some reason keep on voting in Republicans whose major issues are just removing tax brackets.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like my retiree father-in-law who insists that Social Security isn’t a social service and should be the one exception to absolute abolition of all government services because they’re “communist.”

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I supported the ACA (though would’ve preferred a public option), but the one time I actually needed to use it, was for my Dad when his private insurance from his job kicked him off after retirement, the rates and coverage seemed bad, like it was just such a hassle with no great benefits. It’s only when I realized my Dad could still get Tricare that I switched over to that and that was a million times better (even more reason for govt-funded healthcare). I have no idea why my Dad hadn’t been using it the whole time either, he probably wasted tens of thousands of dollars getting private insurance. I still think ACA is a step in the right direction, BUT public option still needs to happen, Fuck Joe Lieberman for blocking that.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (6 children)

You can dislike a policy and still be forced to live under it.

I have no choice but to use the American health care system, and I know how shitty it is, especially given the fact that Obama had a supermajority for a time and could have implemented universal health care. Few things will anger me as quickly as someone saying we have 'access' to health care when that supposed access is largely contingent on whether or not you can afford to be price-gouged.

Obama was not a good president.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (8 children)

You’re simply wrong here. Obama tried his damndest for universal health care. Supermajority or not, the republicans in congress used every trick in the book to stymie it until they gained the majority. The ACA was a lame compromise and the worst of both worlds, but it’s still benefitted millions including those who hate illogically.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You can thank Sen. Joe Lieberman for the killing of a public option. Also, https://www.huffpost.com/entry/debunking-the-myth-obamas_b_1929869 .

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