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[–] [email protected] 194 points 7 months ago (4 children)

It’s just abuse. You deliver something for the production and the story, and then you end up being molested that way,” Jensen said.

Abuse? Molested? This is a load of shit. If they don't want to be seen nude then don't be filmed nude.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This is also why I am thankful for the American first amendment.
It would appear that in that user's country, it is considered additionally a crime to take the nude scene out of context.
I think a lot of people online take freedom of speech for granted, not realizing that many supposedly civilized countries have an increasing number of restrictions on unpopular speech, critical speech, or otherwise undesirable speech like this.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Make no mistake. The US is heading in the same direction. Look at the proposed anti-deepfake laws. That guy could be prosecuted extremely harshly under those.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (4 children)

It will be interesting to see that tested in court. I don't think anyone would complain about for example a pencil sketch of a naked celebrity, that would be considered free speech and fair use even if it is a sketch of a scene from a movie.

So where does the line go? If the pencil sketch is legal, what if you do a digital sketch with Adobe illustrator and a graphics tablet? What if you use the Adobe AI function to help clean up the image? What if you take screen grabs of a publicity shot of the actor's face and a nude image of someone else, and use them together to trace the image you end up painting? What if you then use AI to help you select colors and help shading? What if you do each of those processes individually but you have AI do each of them? That is not very functionally different from giving an AI a publicity shot and telling it to generate a nude image.

As I see it, The only difference between the AI deepfake and the fake produced by a skilled artist is the amount of time and effort required. And while that definitely makes it easy to turn out an awful lot of fakes, it's bad policy to ban one and not the other simply based on the process by which the image was created.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (11 children)

It's messy legislation all around. When does it become porn vs art vs just erotic or satirical? How do you prove it was a deep fake and not a lookalike? If I use a porn actress to make a deep fake is that also illegal or is it about how the original source content was intended to be used/consumed?

I'm not saying that we should just ignore these issues, but I don't think any of this will be handled well by any government.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I also would've expected nudity to be less taboo there. Would it have been just as likely to be arrested for sharing fully clothed still shots? That would actually make a lot more sense: distribution of copyrighted, non-promotional material.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think the issue isn't nudity but sexualization-- IE nude scene in context of a film is fine, chopping the nude scene out of the film is basically turning the actress into a porn star and that's not fine. Same attitude is why the actress called it molestation. Different attitude as a society I guess.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It seems to me these scenes are introduced in films to sexualize them. Most often than not they don't add anything to the story. But blood & sex get more viewers. So I find the whole thing hypocritical.

Brings me to mind an episode of the hilarious series "Coupling", where Jeff says that the actress in the film "The Piano" (?) was naked in the whole film. His friends say she wasn't, it was only a scene in the film. And Jeff replies "it depends on how you watch it" 🤣

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

It is copyright infringement. As a copyright abolitionist, I don't care.

Also, the outrage here is the belief that it is wrong to shown your naked body to a camera and then publishing it.

And now my warning, people who believe the naked body is shameful and that those who have shown their body have done something wrong. You are a monster, leave my planet before next month, or else ..

[–] [email protected] 60 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Just FYI, this wasn't clips of porn. This was actual movies with nude scenes.

Still not entirely sure how I feel about it, but I do agree it's not the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why do you not know how to feel about it?

To me it's just clip collection, you could have a collection of all death scenes or car cashes. They're all just clips from videos people agreed to make for public consumption.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Because in basically any other scenario it's obvious sexual harassment, and behavior like that is a big part of the reason a lot of actresses aren't comfortable doing a role where they're nude to begin with.

It's not porn stars who signed up for that content being made into a highlight. It's an actress who agreed to do a specific scene as part of a movie being treated like they're doing porn.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So, is r/celebnsfw closing? Because it’s exactly what it is. Guy was probably the only human in a sea of bots posting there.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Its cause hes from Denmark and made their own version of r/watchitfortheplot. Apparently illegal in Denmark. But like its already online, just takes a quick search to find the scenes in question.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Rights Alliance also called on Reddit to take the matter seriously. While many of the problematic clips were already removed at that point, the group urged Reddit to implement upload filters to prevent future trouble.

Nothing sinister here, folks. Just defending helpless women against those evil techbros.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Nothing sinister here, folks. Just defending helpless women against those evil techbros.

These are paid actresses. Nothing helpless about it. Clips of film and TV are uploaded all the time. How is this any different?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I was just being sarcastic. The article is explicit that there is a copyright organization behind this.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am confused, are you talking about the man or Reddit or the news or what?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (4 children)

Can you please leave the whole "responding when you're not the person who was asked" bit behind, thanks

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

you're welcome

^/j

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That seems insane, is there some special reason they got arrested that was left out of something?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Money. You aren't paying for the video that the scene is from, you're just watching the scene.

It's almost always about money.... Absolutely absurd

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