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Surely there are debates on best pastrami in NY, but this is the one I tried when I visited. Mouth watering goodness!

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago (2 children)

would you like anything else with that?

Yes, a loaf of bread and some friends.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Once you've had their pastrami you wouldn't be sharing.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I could never eat all that. I tend to eat until I’m full then I stop. No need to stuff yourself so much you need a nap.

Edit: Not that it matters but who downvoted this. I want to know the why?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

This place is known for both their price and portion size. I generally get two meals out of a single $30 sandwich.

Regardless of how popular the place is with tourists, it is still a classic.

And, bonus: if the line is too long you can just go to Russ and Daughters a block away and grab a pastrami lox bagel (see attached).

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Russ and daughters is like stepping in a time machine and going back to the 30s/40s. Great place ! I just love the lower Eastside. Clinton st bakery, the imho even better Pause cafe. I really miss NYC

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I didn't downvote you but man: when you're full, that's a snack for later or tomorrow's lunch.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It’s like a cow with a cracker on either side.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I don't understand American sandwiches, why even bother with the bread?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is like a $30 sandwich from one of the most famous delis in the country. I would not describe this as a typical American sandwich.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

The bread isn't a mere mechanical contrivance to keep your hands clean. The bread is chosen to pair with the pastrami.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

You have a point but dude throwing everything in the fridge between two thinly sliced pieces of bread is amazingly delicious

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Katz pastrami is some of the best, imo. I'm sure you can find a small Jewish deli that does a better one off the beaten path, but it's hard to beat Katz!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

I didn't go to Katz myself. So I can't compare. I went to 2nd Ave Deli. The owner, a small Jewish guy, came over and chatted with me and my wife a few times, gave us free chocolate sodas, and it was the best pastrami I've ever eaten. Would highly recommend it if you want a more relaxing experience.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm into brisket, and pastrami is no exception to that. I've had a lot of pastrami in my life and I've got to say that Katz is fucking killer.

I like to try to replicate things I really enjoy so that I can have it at home or fuse it with other food that I also enjoy. I spent months trying to replicate theirs and couldn't do it. Unfortunately I think the issue by the 3rd batch was that I couldn't smoke it at a low enough temperature to get 3 days of smoke on it.

I'm sad that I don't make it up to NY very often anymore so I haven't had it in a few years. I'm hoping to head up there next year.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

I'm skeptical they actually smoke the meat for 3 days. my understanding is anything past 3-5 hours of smoke is not doing anything for flavor, and you're better off just steaming or baking at that point. IIRC they do finish with steam even after whatever smoke process they have, which further leads me to believe they aren't smoking for 3 days.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Close your app and pull it back up. You'll come a bunch the second time

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Can confirm.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago (3 children)

At this point why even bother with the bread?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the bread really ties the sandwich together.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

That's just like, uh, your opinion, man.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Oh man a good deli rye really ties it together. U Gotta try a sandwich like this. Corned beef sky high will make your heart sing

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago

Fuckin gross, man.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

There is no debate with the pastrami. It is the best

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I can't be the only one who thinks this is visually disgusting right? It looks like completely uncooked meat. Why not just go down to the farm and slaughter one yourself and just eat it right there off of the ground?

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

can’t be the only one who thinks this is visually disgusting right

it looks visually delicious. pastrami is cured, not cooked. like other cured meats, it doesn't turn brown in the process

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

pastrami is cured and cooked for hours and hours to tenderize. the curing process turns the meat bright red even after it cooks.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's cured, slow-smoked (to an internal temp of 203 °F, much higher than what would be considered "well done" for steak), and then steamed. It's literally the most cooked a piece of meat can possibly be without becoming inedible.

On top of that, it's a cheap, tough cut of meat that only becomes delicious because of the complicated and laborious prep. When you buy a sandwich like that (which is pretty expensive), the extensive cooking process is most of what you're paying for.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

It's just you, sorry.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I believe Katz does a 2-4 week salt cure, then they smoke it. That's where the color comes from.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

the color mostly comes from the pink curing salt. Same with corned beef.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Corned beef, rice, shallots warm my soul. Love when my spouse makes it for me.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

I also think it looks that way, but am not so foolish as to believe it is actually raw meat. Your opinion is fine, but the last sentence is unnecessary

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Eh, disgusting is subjective, but there's never only one person with a given opinion, particularly when it comes to food.

Uncooked meat can actually be delicious though, so it's kind of a double subjective lol.

While it isn't anything I have regularly, I tend to favor some steal cuts "blue", which is essentially uncooked at all in the middle. Steak tartare is uncooked. Sashimi exists, and is amazing. Then there's stuff like ceviche that's not truly raw, but isn't cooked with heat.

The list of raw meat foods could keep going, it's not an uncommon thing.

Beyond that, you can't really go by photographs for whether or not something actually matches visually. Raw meat and cured meats often do look similar in color, but not in texture. Not that color really matches, but it's usually close enough to fool the eye depending on lighting and the film/sensor.

Again though, whether or not a pile of raw meat would be disgusting is indeed something that you'll find plenty of people on either side of. And you'd likely find people that see this picture and think it looks raw, at least at first glance (it really doesn't once you pay attention to the variations in color across the slices).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

raw kibbi plate at lebanese deli set off wires in my brain. shit is addicting

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

For anyone not familiar- Katz Deli is a somewhat famous sandwich place in NYC. Their primary menu item is the pastrami on rye sandwich, and it's like $20-$30. They slice the pastrami right in front of you, still warm.

I've only had it once but it was worth it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I'm going to NY next week and really appreciate the reminder to go eat at Katz again. 🤤

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Try some of their sour pickles while there too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

It's great if you don't mind paying $25 for a sandwich

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Oh man dude you’re making me want to take the train down

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Idk man, but using different bread(this one really looks like the German "Kasseler" bread) would probably make it better. Kasseler is fine, but there are so much better bread variants.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Y'all looking at that and thought it's appetizing? 🤨

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