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The [Environmental Protection Agency] has set a 10-year deadline for most utilities to replace lead service lines, but omitted requirements for schools to replace the water fountains or plumbing that have lead components.

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 146 points 5 months ago (3 children)

K-12 age children. Famous for their resistance to lead poisoning.

Lolmurica

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 42 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You just have to keep exposing them to it to help build their tolerance. Eventually, they won’t even get hurt when you hit them with a lead pipe.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago

Thats why I shoot kids with small caliber bullets. Just tagging them in the legs and arms with some .22 short rounds until they can build up a tolerance to fast lead.

[–] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago

"Didn't bother me none!" -some fucking Boomer

[–] ChocoboRocket@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

To be fair, if everything in the system leading up to the school is lead free there should be minimal leeching only happening in the school pipes.

If the pipes in the school have any sediment buildup sequestering the lead from the water there would be little to no leeching.

Definitely looks bad when you say "keep lead pipes in schools" but the reality is still something like "95% of lead removed from water coming out of school taps"

Also, might make schools likely to remove lead pipes if the system is lead free. No point in removing lead pipes from a school if there's +20 miles of lead pipe leading to/from the school

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 months ago

Yeah but WHY. Why exclude -of all places- schools with children? Really?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 19 points 5 months ago

Still, the safe level of lead is zero. That last 5% is still detrimental.

[–] Gorram_Reavers@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago

It makes sense. How else will they get the next generation of Republican voters?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 53 points 5 months ago (1 children)

it's up to school superintendents and legislators to ensure students' water is safe.

And 20 years later there will be a committee investigating why schools didn't do shit.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

And 20 years after that, it still won't be fixed.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 51 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

why would they get new pipes if they won't even spend a fraction of the amount to feed the kids

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If we had a functioning federal government, the answer would be because the EPA required it and failing to follow environmental regulations could lead to them being prosecuted for child endangerment

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

Okay, I know wish is cheap. But like, does anyone who orders anything on wish actually get something functional?

Ordering ourngovernment off wish? We really need to step it up and go to Amazon!

(/rampant sarcasm, at the end their.)

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Parents should be feeding their kids, not the government.

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, and if the parents are unable to feed them, what is the next step? “Sorry buddy, next life pick a richer family”

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Someone just needs to properly motivate the parent(s) to not neglect their children.

[–] diffusive@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Cool, and after the parents fail… is it fair to punish the child?

[–] eskimofry@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't take much to feed children. But i guess giving lunch to kids denies you joy of seeimg them starve?

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't take much to hold the parents responsible for their actions (or inaction),.

[–] eskimofry@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

hey you seem to have this boner for punishing people instead of helping them. Most parents want the best for their children. their lack of means is not something we should punish the children for.

[–] spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Child abusers and neglectors should be held responsible, not have excuses made for.

[–] eskimofry@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Your definition of abuse and neglect is not universal. let each parent decide.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 28 points 5 months ago

Let's stop poisoning people except kids with developing brains because someone paid us off

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I just said to a friend of mine this morning, "do you think we're all weird as fuck because of all the lead fumes we were breathing in from all the cars when we were kids?"

But I guess the lead poisoning has gone on unabated regardless, so we don't have that excuse.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Lead exposure doesn't make you weird, it makes you dumber and increases your risk of cardiovascular problems and dementia later in life.

Air lead exposure in the US dropped off a cliff in the late 70s, people born after 1980 had very little lead exposure from the air on a population level

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

I was born in 1977.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Air lead exposure in the US dropped off a cliff in the late 70s, people born after 1980 had very little lead exposure from the air on a population level

And?

[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You must have been born before 1980 ;)

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Born during Nixon, and I remember Carter.

[–] 31337@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

It decreases inhibition as well. IIRC, that's one reason it's hypothesised lead exposure contributed to the crime waves, and why blood lead levels are correlated to incarceration.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Why not both?

[–] dgmib@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago

America avoiding giving money to low income schools?

I’m shocked, shocked I tell you.

[–] solrize@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

We live in the worst timeline.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Better idea... If it's a problem with cost, then only fix the schools.

[–] vxx@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You can bring water to school from home.

It's harder to carry water home for the whole family.

I've never drank water from school even once in my life.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

We learned nothing from the Roman empire.

[–] Kess8a@lemy.lol 9 points 5 months ago

I mean, how could we with the lead in our water

[–] cordlesslamp@lemmy.today 11 points 5 months ago

America still using lead pipes?

What year is it?

[–] Fester@lemm.ee 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Environmental Devestation Agency

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Gotta keep the population stupid and complacent somehow.