this post was submitted on 18 Oct 2024
355 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

68864 readers
4175 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related news or articles.
  3. Be excellent to each other!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, this includes using AI responses and summaries. To ask if your bot can be added please contact a mod.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed
  10. Accounts 7 days and younger will have their posts automatically removed.

Approved Bots


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 86 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My Jellyfin just quivered…

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I’ve been looking to buy a couple 24TB drives. Hopefully, this pushes their price down.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Peertube instance owners rejoice!

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Or just people who download porn.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Who doesn't have multiple TB of videos just laying around?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

*pisses pants nervously before turning into a wolf

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wish there were TBs of porn of what I was into.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

If porn was just created on demand instead of filling millions of hdd's, would anyone notice or care? Finally a use for generative AI.

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I prefer 1980s porn jpgs around 90kB each thankyouverymuch.

It's crazy sizes though uf you think about it, I have like 2 or 4 TB drives and they are far from full.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

When will it be commercially available though? Supposedly Seagate has had 30TB drives out for the better part of a year, but I can't find anything larger than 24TB actually available for purchase.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I've been waiting for a 32TB to become available as well, Seagate announced that drive last year and it's still not available outside data centers. I suspect the WD one will be the same.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

I'd guess that they're commercially available but only for hyperscalers - large companies like Google, Amazon (AWS), etc that need a huge amount of storage.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Obligatory hint that SMR isn't suited for RAID systems.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

A better way to word it is: SMR is only suited for archival usage. Large writes, little-to-no random writes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wonder how the read performance would be.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If you know the format of SMR, then you can trivially see the read performance is not impacted. Writing is impacted, because it has to write multiple times for each sector write (because of overlapping sectors that allow the extra density).

Impacted write performance, coupled with hdds are generally slow with random writes PLUS the extra potential for data loss due to less-atomic sector writes, makes them terrible drives for everything except archival usage.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

Tape on a platter, basically.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wonder what happens if you throw them in an unraid BTRFS/jbod configuration with a CMR parity drive.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

Slowdown and data corruption?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (5 children)

If you eyeballing these, please remind that these babies tend to be LOUD AS FUCK, so might not be suitable for home server use.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

Are they any louder than any HDD from the last 30 years?

If so, im actually curious why that is

Edit: fixed to say HDD not SSD

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Well I have no experience with these particular drives, but they do seem to have 11 platters. Which is beyond insane as far as I'm concerned. More platters means more moving parts, more friction more noise (all other things being equal).

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (5 children)

Oops, yes. I definitely would expect these to be much louder than your 6 GB 1998 model HDD wrangling under stress of copying files at 30 MB/s.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tell that to my IBM 10GB 10.000 RPM U2W SCSI from back then. To this day I have never witnessed a noisier harddrive... But that PC was pretty epic, including the biggest mf of a mainboard I ever had (the SCSI controller was onboard).

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Ah, the sound of turning on the SCSI storage tower.

KA-TSCHONK. WeeeeeeeeEEEEEIIIIIII... skrrrt, skrrrt, clack.

Either that or KA-TSCHONK, silence, if there were already too many boxes on that circuit at a lan party 😁

load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Just don't put it in your bedroom. All those dead skin cells wouldn't do good to it anyway.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Since when is dust a concern for hard drives??

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

I was talking about the server in general

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Parity rebuild will only take a week....

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My 6TB drive just died. So I'm in the market for a new one.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

sorry but these aren't 6TB

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Mebbe the 26 one is just 3-4 smaller drives inside it?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You joke but that's sorta how it works for some HDDs lol

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago
load more comments
view more: next ›