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Its time to switch to Linux!

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[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 91 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 58 points 5 months ago (3 children)

no longer receive security update

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

your base are belong to us

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[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 90 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Windows 10? I'm on Linux Mint 22, which is more than double the number.

Checkmate Microsuck.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago (1 children)

MFW I revert to Windows 2000

😎

[–] accideath@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

I mean, it’s so old, it’s probably safer than 10 next year

[–] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 43 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Linux can also be susceptible to attacks and breaches too.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago

"no, wait, not like that!"

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Bold of you to oppose the oppressive Linux lobby here on Lemmy. They are worse than the most militant vegans...

[–] KryptonNerd@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I really don't understand people's issue with vegans, even the really vocal ones. I'm not vegan, cheese is life, but I get that they are well meaning and ultimately are wanting to change the world for the better.

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago

My problem is things like "you're a rapist because you eat cheese." Fuck those people tbh.

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[–] trouble@lemm.ee 33 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pretty sure w10 still receives updates

[–] marcos@lemmy.world 58 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It's scheduled to stop receiving them October 14, 2025.

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

1 year until my distro search is forced to come to an end and I must choose one.

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[–] peopleproblems@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (7 children)

I have a crazy idea.

What if y'all get together, and make a guide on an easy way to switch to idk Arch, since Valve is working with it.

You know, so that they don't have to spend a lot of money, and don't have to worry about losing all their data, and hopefully so they don't have to learn everything about Linux so they can enjoy using it right away.

Ha, I almost believed that was realistic rereading it.

[–] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's actually pretty easy with the guided installer currently shipping with arch, and there are actually numerous guides on how to install Arch.

Choosing not to is perfectly reasonable, but it's not for lack of effort from the Linux community trying to make things easier and more accessible.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

There's a bunch of beginner friendly distros, it's just that when you want to make things work as well as they did on Windows then you hit a wall.

I'm using Mint (which is as beginner friendly as it gets)... Because my display signal dropped whenever there was load on the GPU on Bazzite (Fedora based) which is also supposed to be beginner friendly...

No easy way to disable the audio outputs I don't actually use. On Windows? Couple of clicks, all done through GUI.

Wifi antenna didn't work, had to install unofficial drivers from GitHub.

I've got a multi display setup and sometimes I want to switch where things are displayed. On Windows I downloaded Monitor profile switcher and it does everything for me, just had to save the setup to a profile and assign a keyboard shortcut (which isn't essential as there's a shortcut to switch it on the taskbar), it's all done inside the program. On Mint I had to create a script to choose what to display with what resolution and create a new keyboard shortcut in a separate program because the alternative was to have to open the file explorer to open the folder where the script it saved to execute it.

Playing games is easier than ever! Except that games that have both a Linux and Windows version fuck up when it comes to cloud saving on Steam because the save game folder isn't necessarily the same (and the Deck installs the Windows version by default so fuck compatibility between that Linux running machine and Linux PCs!) so you still have to force install the windows version even though there's a perfectly playable Linux version!

Don't want to use the terminal? "Everything can be done without it but using it makes things easier..." When people say that they mean that you can browse the web and write stuff on LibreOffice but as soon as you deviate from stuff that you can accomplish with a simple Android tablet you're fucked because you'll have issues you couldn't imagine. If you don't want to use the terminal at that point you need to write scripts outside the terminal and then execute them so technically you didn't do what you needed to do in the terminal but the end result is the same!

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Absolutely not, even if we could all work together that would be a horrible idea. Linux is not a Windows replacement and the Linux community doesn't need to be overwhelmed with Windows users asking why a specific feature doesnt work exactly the same.

[–] Red_October@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Then maybe "just use Linux" shouldn't be the top advice for literally every computer issue presented here.

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[–] M137@lemmy.world 31 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I'm absolutely certain the grammatical clusterfuck in so many memes and posts is done fully consciously. Like, someone sat there and actually thought about how to make it grammatically fucked yet get the point across, just to get those extra comments pointing it out. And it's fucking horrifying that this is where we are, deliberately making things dumb to get more "clicks".

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Its all about teh enjagement.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago (3 children)

They just fired two workers for organizing a protest against supporting Israel. You don't have to make up conspiracy theories to convince people that Microsoft: Bad.

Step 1: damage your customers

Step 2: ?

Step 3: profit

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

bully everyone into upgrading to Windows 11 so you can force data scraping in the guise of AI down their throats. nice game

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[–] shasta@lemm.ee 22 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Is this post from the future? Windows 10 still has support for another year.

[–] figjam@midwest.social 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] shasta@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In the title, not the image. So confusing

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (10 children)

In the last month, I made a genuine effort to switch to Linux Mint, then Bazzite, as my daily driver. Mint could not run Hitman 3 for unexplained reasons. Bazzite frequently got graphical corruption issues when returning from sleep. Neither could run niche indie games and gave no error codes.

I knew I’d be doing some tweaking to get Linux working how I wanted, but it was missing configuration as well as being unreliable by default. I like the principle of using a non-MS OS, but I need it to work.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah I've always been a very casual Linux enthusiast (key word is casual) since I was a teen. Setup and things "just working" out of the box have absolutely never been the case, even in 2024, and even though people like to say it does. In an ideal situation on an ideal computer with ideal hardware, you don't have to tweak anything. But for most people, there are going to be some annoying issues and tweaks you have to work through.

If a Linux system has already been set up and tested for the end user, then it is a great alternative. But in my experience, these systems absolutely never work perfectly out of the box and it takes some technical know how to get to that point. Ever since Windows 7, Windows has "just worked" out of the box... especially because it comes pre-loaded on your device.

I have been dealing with some issues with my Bluetooth module in Windows. I had eventually solved the problem, but the fix seemed to have reverted itself somewhat recently. Annoyed, I thought I'd finally commit to a switch to Linux on my daily driver since my laptop doesn't support Win 11. Well, I chose Linux Mint since it doesn't use Wayland which for some reason has poor compatibility with my common Logitech mouse. Everything had been fine but then I found instead of the Bluetooth module crashing like in Windows, which just makes me have to reset the module, the entire system crashes in Linux instead and requires me to reboot it. Frustrating to say the least.

And then, as you've brought up, gaming on Linux is just generally not a good experience unless you have all of your games on Steam.

Linux can be awesome but it's absolutely not for everyone...especially people with less technical knowledge (unless it is set up for them), people who want something to "just work" without any fiddling, or people who do a lot of gaming outside of Steam.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was lazy and went with pop!_os. Required minimal tweaking, and so far there are very few games I couldn't run

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 5 months ago

They were got hacked?! Where is has the media been has in all this??!1!

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Bullshit!

I've been using Windows 7 for years well after end of support and my computer never got hacked!

Oh yes it did

Windows 10 is coming up on 10 years old. Things can't live forever.

MS learned that from XP.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 months ago

I mean, we have no laws about os support.

Imo a very common sense one is to make any software too old to maintain just open source.

Ownership in software should be based on who is willing and capable of maintaining it.

[–] atro_city@fedia.io 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Imagine a virus that installs linux on that date.

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[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Yeah. Gotta find a distro soonish. My 3-4 year old laptop tried to update to W11 and has failed twice. Guess it doesn't meet the hardware reqs. (Thank you RNGesus)

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[–] Nougat@fedia.io 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Its time to switch to Linux!

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[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago
[–] Marx2k@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 5 months ago

were got hacked

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Every OS has a limited life span of support. Linux is no different. Every distro I'm aware of does 5 years or less of support vs Microsoft's 10 years.

[–] tequinhu@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I would disagree on the basis that Linux upgrades don't require hardware upgrades (unless you have a very low end hardware that's hanging by a thread already)

For example, I don't remember seeing all this fuss about upgrading when people were moving from 8.1 to 10 (but it could just be me on my bubble)

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 8 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The difference is you now need a TPM 2.0 chip. That's pretty much it. Hardware requirements were the same as Win8.

If you are using a desktop computer, all you need to do is buy a $20-30 TPM 2.0 module and install it. It connects to a few pins and your done. It's cheap, simple, and easy to do.

The issue is most people now have laptops and quite a few didn't have that chip or that version (some have TPM 1.2, which isn't as secure anymore.) and you can't install it on a laptop motherboard. TPM 2.0 has been available since mid-2016, but some manufacturers might have cheapened out and not added it to save costs as it wasn't a necessary part. So basically, any laptop that is 9 years or older (or the manufacturer cheapened out) won't be able to upgrade to Win11.

[–] spookedintownsville@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Hmmm. I've never seen a board with a TPM header.

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[–] IMNOTCRAZYINSTITUTION@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (10 children)
[–] WordBox@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

Basically Hitler

^^(/s)

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[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

DHS is still no-go on Windows 11.

That date may get pushed back.

[–] auzy@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The biggest issue with Linux at the moment isn't the os. It's the community, and because of that, they keep scaring off developers, and ironically many developers only stick around now because they're hired by a large company

I've seen so many developers (including myself), who got smashed by the community so we just gave up

It has definitely gotten better though (vastly) in the past 20 years

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (5 children)

WHOA BUDDY! This is Lemmy. You are required to pretend Linux is made of sunshine and blowjobs here. There has never been a single issue with any distro of the operating system and if you try to claim there is you are literally worse than Hitler.

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