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[–] rotten@lemm.ee 128 points 4 months ago (7 children)

So don't sign up. Go without.

[–] KLISHDFSDF@lemmy.ml 85 points 4 months ago

and if you're technically capable, self host and share with friends/family. fuck corporate greed

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[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 102 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Vote with your wallet. Boycott rent seeking companies that lock away their IP and charge money for access to it.

For example, FOR ADOBE TO DESERVE MY MONEY EVERY MONTH, 100% OF THEIR TECHNOLOGIES SHOULD BE OPEN SOURCE.

The only rent I happily pay for is a good VPN.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

God forbid a programmer be compensated for their labor.

I mean yeah, subscription services are shitty, but what's wrong with lifetime purchases?

[–] barryamelton@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

As a programmer, and an open source one paid handsomely, fuck subscriptions and asshole software companies.

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[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You buy a pair of shoes, the maker is paid. Why do you have to pay the bastard every month?

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[–] demesisx@infosec.pub 21 points 4 months ago

I’m actually a programmer. There are ways to compensate us that doesn’t force people to pay rent for our work.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 14 points 4 months ago

I mean yeah, subscription services are shitty, but what’s wrong with lifetime purchases?

This thread is about subscriptions. So I'd assume that when people talk about 'rent seeking companies' etc, they are referring to subscription payments rather than lifetime purchases.

[–] Mojave@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (10 children)

I am a programmer, and I get paid whether or not the product is bought. Shovel your dogshit somewhere else.

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[–] finestnothing@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I pay for music streaming on Tidal. I have a pretty big library of music from attempts to get away from streaming (and keep it up on Soulseek), but I use curated playlists too much to get away from streaming

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[–] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 72 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

That's why I used Kodi, a Plex server, and modded youtube. Fuck ads and fuck subscriptions

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

I chatted with my uncle recently, and he told me about a movie from 2006. I asked where to watch it, he said you can watch it free on YouTube. Stop by my parents house, we decide to watch movie. It was 1 hour and 30 minutes, Runtime. There was 3 minute ads every 10 minutes. The movie was good, but heavily dampered by ADS. To the point you would start to get invested and zone into the movie. Then BAM ADS, the only other option was to buy the movie for $4 on prime or pay for a hulu subscription.

I know subscriptions are stupid and i agree, but its just so infuriating! Pay $7.89 for streaming service which may or may not have the thing you want to watch. For it to most likely to be on streaming service B. Or you go buy the DVD assuming you can. Which now you own a movie that may be CRAP.

You just cant ethically win :/

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

IMO: Pirate it guilt-free without a second thought. If you enjoy it, and deem it worthy of a rewatch - then buy the DVD/Blu-Ray.

Then rip a quality copy of it, and delete the previously downloaded one.

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[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

How did you have the patience for that? Is immediately nope out

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Thing is, corporations twist ethics so when we obey we lose and when they fuck us over they win

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[–] ContrarianTrail@lemm.ee 12 points 4 months ago (17 children)

Fuck ads and fuck subscriptions

How do you imagine developers and content creators to get paid if neither of these two options is acceptable to you?

[–] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Honestly mate, I am not a tankie or even politically left in my country, but when looking at the insane results for these enormous companies and the ever increasing greed with ads/price hikes, I’ve just had enough.

I know it’s not morally right to steal, but I refuse to support companies like Alphabet paying their CEO 200+ million a year. If they manage to block me out when skirting their ads, then I’ll find something else to spend my time on.

So you’re right, I just don’t care anymore.

I do pay for Nebula though!

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Pay por the permanent ownership of the sold product.

As they say. If selling isn't owning, piracy isn't stealing.

If a seller doesn't give me option to own their products I will certainly never steal them.

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[–] vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 4 months ago (5 children)

by selling me a license that lets me run their software on my own machine, not theirs. Like in the old times

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[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Theres A difference between running a profitable buisness and ruining the whole user experience to please the shareholders.

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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 months ago

Am a developer, please do not pay for any software subscription if you don’t think it’s worth it.

Us devs would love to give the best experience, but if the customer is willing to pay for a shit experience, guess which path management makes you take.

[–] Deway@lemmy.world 11 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Not everything should be for profit. I 'member the good old days when people made poorly designed website to share their passion and help others. I 'member the good old days when people developed freewares, even proprietary softwares, just for the fun of it.

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[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 45 points 4 months ago (8 children)

the biggest reason for subscriptions is. 1. consumer laws don't protect it. and 2. you can quit your job and don't have to be actually productive and work for a living because your users will just keep on "buying" the product every month indefinitely. and finally 3. subscription basically gives you monopoly in any given area you host it; because the user will usually not look or even have the means to look for options or alternatives once they have already tied a percentage of their monthly income to a company for the software or service they provide - as wallets got spread thinner and thinner until they, now, are entirely swallowed by subscriptions.

the only people arguing in favor of subscriptions are those who don't want to work for a living while still taking advantage of the capitalist system.

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[–] deadlyduplicate@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Found this out when I wanted a decent journaling app for Android. All the most popular ones have subscription tiers that amount to hundreds of dollar over just a few years.... for a fucking journal app? what the hell!

[–] leadore@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not only that but they can train their AI's on all their subscribers' journal entries. Check F-Droid.org for some free, privacy respecting FLOSS journaling apps.

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[–] Chulk@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

Definitely feel ya there. I highly recommend Obsidian or Joplin. Not sure what features you're looking for, but I've found Obsidian refreshingly simple. Aso nice knowing that it's just markdown files on my device that can't be sold as data.

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[–] Zementid@feddit.nl 11 points 4 months ago

F-Droid... An open source app store with exactly that: Apps without BS

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 30 points 4 months ago (6 children)

only way i'll be happy with that is if no one owns anything. corporations, people, billionaires. Otherwise might as well burn it all down, why should care if i dont own anything.

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[–] GatoEscobar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Worst is, if you don't subscribe to specific services, people will call you the odd one out

[–] firepenny@lemmy.world 25 points 4 months ago

That's fine, I started doing my thing and stopped caring what the world thinks.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Those people are dumb and weird.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 15 points 4 months ago

Yep. Those people aren't my friends.

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[–] TheBlue22@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 4 months ago (2 children)

That's cool, I do not have a single subscription and will never, ever have one. If I can't buy your product, I'll sail the 7 seas

[–] brrk 37 points 4 months ago (4 children)

How do i pirate insurance?

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[–] Mercuri@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

"If buying isn't owning, pirating isn't stealing."

I heard this before and it is becoming more true each day.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago

You'll own nothing and you'll be happy!

Can we get communism already?

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Next up, (cell) phone plans.

(though fuck landlines phones too)

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