My husband and I did this after the Dobbs decision came down and cited 'future reconsiderations' for Casey and Obergefell. Called a handful of friends and family and told them to meet us at the courthouse in two weeks.
Now, we are bracing to help people who may have to travel to our blue state to get married, just like they had to 15-ish years ago. We may not be able to leave, but we have some means to help others, so we are doing what we can.
My partner and I got our partnership right after the election on a lazy day
I'm a registered minister in the church of the latter day dude based out of Oregon and am happy to marry lgbtq folks.
I wonder what the chances are that the coming administration invalidate such marriages, probably on some dumb Christian nationalist grounds
Supreme Court has already signaled that gay marriage is on the chopping block.
I wonder how this would work with their anti-trans initiatives. If a transwoman tried to marry her girlfriend, would it technically be legal under their backwards laws?
Logically yes, but they are not bound by logic.
No, they see us as criminals and will deny every right they can, marriage, public service, equal treatment under the law, medical insurance/medication, freedom of association, speech, and even our right to exist. The point is to criminalize and erase our existence from public life.
Weren't they against sharia law?
Only if you call it that.
Anything is possible, but it would be far more difficult to invalidate existing marriages than prevent new ones. Which is exactly why couples are rushing to get it done now.
It's already happening in Italy, so there's no reason to believe the GOP would hold back.
Italy has never recognized same-sex marriage.
Sorry, Captain Pedantic — they have same-sex unions (and recently banned travel for surrogacy specifically for gay couples)
the Democrats defended Roe v. Wade so hard it fell so it is scary what four years of Republican rule will bring
We don't get much from the democrats. But at least we do get something. I'd really hate to be one of those people that spent the whole last year as "useful idiots" for foreign Nations and oligarchs. Screaming about how Democrats are just the same as Republicans and just genocidal murders.
I assume most didn't want things to get worse. Didn't want trump. This has to be like ashes on their tongue. I hope that they and the people they misinformed/demotivated. Will be ready to show solidarity if we're ever given another chance at elections. And do what it takes to keep Republicans and their allies far away from any elected office for the rest of their lives.
I hope that they and the people they misinformed/demotivated. Will be ready to show solidarity if we're ever given another chance at elections.
Yes I hope all those center-right neolibs running the party realize the failure of their ways and join in solidarity with those of us on the left. I have my doubts though.
Well until such time as an actual left-wing party a cruise any sort of actual power we're going to need them. And the best way to make them better with us. Feeling in local State offices which Republicans often run for unopposed with actual leftist candidates. Who will largely caucus with the Democratic Party. Building our influence inside it and dragging them left. Not engaging doesn't persuade them anymore.
Do these people not realize that the government can just invalidate their marriage and punish them?
Breaking up marriages is recognized worldwide as an act of genocide, but putting restrictions on who can marry isn’t as universally recognized.
The world hasn't cared about genocides since 1945.
The world has never cared about a genocide that happened within a nation's borders.
Had Hitler not invaded other countries, there wouldn't have been any consequences more severe than a public condemnation.
Hell, there would have provably been foreign support for genociding Romani people.
They did it to my mom. She and her partner drove to San Francisco on that weekend when they were doing gay marriages in the mid 2000s. That ,marriage was canceled once they straightened iut the laws.
They're legally wed right here in Arizona now, but I wouldn't put it past these fucks to try to annul their marriage again.
I'm sure Trump really cares about international law
He doesn't care about domestic law. I doubt he would care about laws he personally enacted if they stood in opposition to his in-the-moment wants.
I'd personally be afraid I'd be putting myself on a termination list tbh, but others are probably braver than me.
The Republican Party is turning into the Taliban of the United States. On the other hand, Americans knew that and knew what Trump is all about when they voted, and they walked right into this with eyes wide open, serving both Houses of Congress and the Presidency to that party. We deserve everything that's coming to us.
there is US citizens not allowed to vote, and we did not choose this nor deserve it fuck that
Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like Americans are going to learn until it really, really hurts. I hope we get all the pain that comes from this straight on. No relief until we start voting differently.
They aren't turning into; they have always been. They have finally consolidated power. I don't even live in the US and I am dreading the worldwide ramifications of your election. Where can I go to escape? The moon? Apparently not even that.
Gay marriages seem a bit purer to me because you know it's not about kids. They legit like each other.
Just because same sex couples don't birth kids doesn't mean we'll stop trying.
Anything is possible through Jesus.
I'm heterosexual and we were marred for 10 years before we had a kid. My brother has been married to a woman almost 30 years and has never had kids. My uncle has been married to a woman almost 50 years and has never had kids. I have lots of friends who are heterosexual and married and have no kids.
And there are two queer couples I'm friends with that do have kids.
On top of that, I know people with kids who never got married.
Marriage and children are really not related except when it comes to certain legal issues.
I was thinking more being socially forced to marriage thanks to issues revolving around biological kids which to me "ruins the sanctity" of marriage. Meanwhile gay people don't have that issue. Like oh no someone got my pregnant if I don't get marriage my family stone me but my partner is a one night stand that I found out is a serial killer.
I know multiple same-sex couples that got married explicitly for the purpose of being allowed to adopt.
Trump was great for the economy, people rushed to get married, buy hard drives, canned food, rice, life insurance policies, plan funerals, finish that bucket list...
I'm still shocked by the number of gay, black, latino and women votes Trump got this election. I wish they would realize that racism, sexism and homophobia are what drives Trump's most loyal and core supporters.
like anyone else gay, black, latino and women voters are themselves capable of racism, sexism and homophobia
Should've been codified back in 2015. The fuck, Obama.
Show me how much you don’t know about presidential power, or history.
Yep, that's on the congress. Which Democrats did not have sufficient control of. Which Republicans/DINOs would have struck down hard if they even tried. But simple minds do love simple solutions for complex problems. Regardless of whether they work or not.
Isn't going to help when the Republicans and the Republican Supreme Court goes after Obergefell v. Hodges.
I feel like this is a good way to get yourself on a target list.
Marriage is a vow, not an oath.
I understand why the headline is what it is but my inner grammar enthusiast can't just let it slide.
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