The people pointing out the women killed by bears vs men stats a few months ago need to understand this as well lol
Like I am fine if you want to meme or dunk on men but once you bring bad stats into it that’s when I get serious.
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The people pointing out the women killed by bears vs men stats a few months ago need to understand this as well lol
Like I am fine if you want to meme or dunk on men but once you bring bad stats into it that’s when I get serious.
The first time I saw the man or bear question, I assumed it was a setup for victim blaming. Neither choice is going to be a win for the woman.
Based on experiences, she doesn't trust men so she picks bear? How dare she judge all men. So illogical!
Or she picks man? Then she should be prepared for an inevitable assault because eventually the man in the woods will be one of the bad ones and she should have known. She should have been more careful or just stayed home!
The whole thing was never a maths question. It was a rage bait question to rile up men who hate women and to give women an unwinnable binary choice. The only "winning" answer is to decline to play this stupid game.
The new women in mens fields trend is the same thing. Its there to agravate people by doing the thing people claim to hate just to a different group. Equality does not mean every one gets a turn at being the opresser and I can see why young people start to consider themself anti feminists if these two trends are the most interaction you've ever done with feminism. Which is likely since I don't really see any other big social media movements for it.
Maybe its not my place to critisize the way they choose to operate but all im saying is if you told me both of those trends were Russian plots to stoke anger at feminists I'd believe you easily.
I assume that part of the intent with these type of scenarios is to draw attention to toxic masculinity by baiting out toxic responses, which is fine and obviously it's effective if that is the intent. However, any attempt to respectfully disagree with the premise was also treated as toxicity and that just made me not want to engage with feminists or the discourse at all, which seems counter-productive.
All good points I hadn’t considered! However, some people did try to turn it into a math problem which I had to object to at that point, since they were doing it wrong.
no, it was a question to illustrate how women feel about safety around men. the rage came from male fragility. the refusal to understand a simple premise doesn't make the "game" stupid.
It's obtuse to treat the bear metaphor as a math problem. It's doubly so to correct the work.
But would you rather be alone in the woods with a statistician or a bear?
Men kill more women than bears even adjusted per encounter.
I'm not here to argue about the bear metaphor, but this claim seems spurious at best. Even if there's only 1 fatal bear encounter per 10 years, the number of bear encounters is so low that I don't think this statistic can possibly be true. Do you have anything to back up your claim, or is this just a gut feeling sort of thing?
Wait why are we killing bears?
Fits of jealousy.
Do they? That’s hard to believe but if they did the stats right then feel free to share. How do you even measure the number of encounters?
Unfortunately, Steve's data is wholly anecdotal. He's killed 8 of the 10 women he's ever met, see..
Like I am fine if you want to meme or dunk on men
That's pretty F'ed up
Is it? Men as a class are privileged. I’m fine with punching up.
Note this does not apply to individuals and certain subsets of men who may be relatively less privileged (gay men, black men, etc.)
Why do you think it’s fucked up? What’s the harm?
You're asking what the harm in bigotry is?
No, I’m asking you to explain a specific harm in a specific case which I don’t believe matches any reasonable definition of bigotry.
Ah, so bigotry is okay when it's against specific groups then. Gotcha.
Attempts to dodge the question make it clear that you cannot articulate any harm here. Which is one of the things that makes it not bigotry. Go touch grass mate.
I shouldn't need to articulate why its harmful to insult people based on attributes they were born with. Sex and gender are protected classes under the laws of almost every developed nation. Bigotry is harmful, even if you think that the group you're being bigoted towards has some perceived advantage. Arbitrarily stereotyping 50% of the earth's population is foolish and closed-minded.
yeah I think the way I always read that question was in the hundred duck sized horses vs one horse-sized duck sense. The average woman passes by, say, in public, hundreds of men per day in a city, right? I read that question (and the implication) that they’d prefer from a safety standpoint if each one of them was a bear, which is more of a video game premise than a situation anyone would survive.
Important to note here that you should not stand on an open field (being the highest point) or below a tree (high point that might drop wood) during a thunderstorm.
I mean, coyotes can't catch roadrunners despite having access to unlimited Acme products. They're no match for humans.
Sucks that the movie that was finished about the coyote fighting Acme in court for all their failing products got scrapped for tax purposes.
Please quit with this tax write off misinformation.
They cut their losses. We don't know the details why, but for some reason they decided it would cost too much in money or reputation to continue with marketing and release.
Not everything is a billionaire conspiracy. Sometimes they just realise they made a film too shit to release, or some person in a suit just wanted to spite someone.
Never said it was a write off. The video I watched on it did say that someone who worked on the film said it was for tax reasons. It's a single source that might be incorrect, though.
Edit: Here's the video I watched on it. Says right on the title that it was for tax purposes and I don't think an attorney would get that part incorrect.
"More people get bitten by New Yorkers than sharks"
Who lives around sharks all the time?
No one shakes a vending machine. Its part of gen-x schooling to learn you rock the machine back just a bit and then let it settle back on its feet.
What are they teaching kids now, if not that?
I know some (genX) people who discovered a neat trick to dislodge all the contents of a vending machine. Involves at least two people and a 2x4. I wouldn't call what is done "shaking" per se, but you can be sure when the vending machine gets set back down, it feels mighty shaken up. And also empty.
But that would be dangerous, so don't do it.
I only know Vending Machine lore from Hollywood because they're a lot rarer where I'm from so in my head "vending machine = shake" checks out.
Most car accidents happen within a mile from home
...because that's where you're driving most often
Cow's outnumber people on my block.
But there are fences between them and us.
However geese outnumber people in my yard.
I have added goose wrestling to my resume.
Good thing shaking babies doesn't kill you then, or that stat might be even higher
Well there was that one time the vending machine decided to attack, but in general, it's a human causing it to fall over.
sometimes humans cause me to fall over, but you don’t see me going around killing people
If vending machines ejected their beverage as vigorously as coconut trees, people wouldn't put them on the same category on those statistics.
Getting an error message and a tiny thumbnail.
edit =finally appeared. My life's dreams are fulfilled and joy reigns in the land.
At least it didn't kill ya
It came up this time. It's a good post and I'm glad I waited.
Having grown up around coconut trees, and gravity, I've long been aware that it's foolish shake that tree if you don't want to loose the fruit it holds over your head.