Literally on the heels of the revelation that China is spying on all chats and phone calls, these clowns still think back doors are safe in any way.
I swear, humanity is simply failing the IQ test here.
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What we need are laws to prevent this kind of court trolling because courts all over europe are wasting time and money on these repeated proposals. Politicians should be held accountable for wasting everyone's time.
In the US somebody recently found a way to account powerful people.
But it didn't work, ended up just with bruises.
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Context: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regulation_to_Prevent_and_Combat_Child_Sexual_Abuse
How your representatives in EU parliament voted: https://mepwatch.eu/9/vote.html?v=134463&country=fr%7Cde
Looks like it's mostly german representatives that block it. They remember the stasi.
It was the one good thing the german liberal party FDP was good for, but they aimed to destroy the coalition from the inside (literally! they made plans and discussion meetings when the best time to destroy it would be). And now they are out and we have the SPD and the Greens left. So one party who really has a hard on for surveillance and the other one who is undecided.
Here we go again Good old Child abuse.
In all seriousness, the EU has become beyond frustrating in so many ways... Kudos for fighting against corporate monoliths, but... c'moon!
I don't think you get the EU. It's a democracy and everyone can submit proposals.
This is a proposal from pro-Russian Orban from Hungary, and not EU's opinion.
It's a democracy where the European Commission (which is actually the main governing body of the EU and not EP) is comprised of people put there by bureaucracies.
I don't think you get the EU. It's a failed attempt at powerful democratic version of USSR, that has been retconned into a successful confederacy, only it's not that too.
I see your point, although I still can't shake the impression that the entire EU's shifting away from its potential of being the best example. Sure, it's down to individual people with individual views, but we're still to see if it's greater than the sum of its parts, to be honest...
Don't get me wrong, I'd still rather we have the EU than not have it, but I'd wish to see a lot more reasonable and rational minds on the council and have it be felt throughout its policies.
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You shouldn't be using whatsapp anyway.
First they came for whatsapp. I didn't say anything because I don't use whattsapp.
It would concern all messaging apps, which is beyond stupid. Lol, even nato uses the matrix protocol.
Lots of defense uses XMPP as well
No, this would only affect the ones run by corporations with a presence in the EU
Oh, I thought that was clear by context..
I definitely would sideload the secure versions, if I was affected, which got more easy thanks to EU, lol
Again, no sideloading needed. You're misunderstanding the executive.
They enforce this by freezing bank accounts and issuing fines to corporations, not by internet censorship.
So any company that doesn't have money flowing through the EU is unaffected. And any company that does have money flowing through the EU has a choice to either pull out of the EU or to fuck over their users.
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Is this a Brexit benefit?
Not when the UK is already a member of Five Eyes.
Isn't that a burger restaurant?
Not quite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
An Anglosphere intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom, and the United States. These countries are party to the multilateral UK-USA Agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence.
Woosh
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To answer seriously: unfortunately, the UK is one step ahead with the Online Safety Act. They've already given Ofcom the power to enforce client-side scanning. Ofcom themselves are deciding whether they want to use this power yet and this should happen sometime next year.
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Look, it was discussed for years already and we have a consensus; it's technically and legally not possible without giving you the keys (methaphorically and literally) and we can't give you the keys because that would quickly lead to you abusing the power given to you.
I use signal but I always kind of wanted to switch people to threema but in reality it's hard enough getting them to install signal.
Threema really doesn't do a good job of making it easy to switch. For the regular user there is too much that can go wrong and its too easy to lose your chats when migrating to a new phone
And its fucking back again
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