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Summary

Donald Trump has sued pollster J. Ann Selzer and The Des Moines Register over a pre-election poll showing Kamala Harris leading in Iowa by three points, claiming it created a "false narrative of inevitability."

Trump, who won the state by 13 points, alleges election interference but provides no evidence of wrongdoing.

Legal experts expect the case to fail, citing First Amendment protections. Critics argue the lawsuit is intended to burden media outlets financially.

Selzer has retired, and Gannett, the newspaper’s parent company, has defended the poll's methodology as sound.

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[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 66 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What a childish sore winner. Contrary to popular belief polls don't predict results, they represent a fleeting moment in time. Now fuck off, you won.

[–] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

Trump is mad the poll made him worry he might not be elected like Putin promises.

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 48 points 3 months ago

it's not about winning lawsuits, it's about proliferating the notion that any news that doesn't come directly from his own face anus is sus and "fake news." he's been doing it since long before the first election, and he's not going to stop, ever. in fact, he's going to ramp it up to where there are actual legal/financial consequences for printing anything that doesn't shower him with fawning obsequious praise.

many journalists see the writing on the wall. they obey in advance to save their own ass

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 28 points 3 months ago

Only Trump is allowed to say and do whatever the hell he wants with impunity.

[–] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

trump is a weak, pathetic idiot. I hope he sues me too.

[–] kassiopaea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

you see, Oceania was always at war with East Asia

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

There are five lights!

[–] recreationalcatheter@lemm.ee 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Reminder to everyone that you, YES YOU, can claim the 2024 election was stolen to your maga peers using the same rhetoric they used in 2020.

I heard there was bamboo fiber in the ballots

The voting machines were hacked

Took too long to count to NOT be fraud

Boom, now they understand exactly how they sounded the last 4 years. They hate it, and I've made at least 3 people throw tantrums midday.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Oh and it was way closer this time so a lot less fraud is needed for it to work, which gives us an actually higher chance of being right than they were

On top of the fact that every accusation is an admission with those ass hats, though that won't CONVINCE them of course

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 13 points 3 months ago

but provides no evidence of wrongdoing

So surely it will be rejected and nobody being sued will even need to show up since nobody even has any evidence?

Surely....

[–] BillDaCatt@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago

Trump is a fucking baby! He can't even win without bitching about it.

[–] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

How could he possibly prove damages here? He won.

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The DmR is such a weird target. It may be in a blue city but it panders to the red state. It spends most of its time sucking off the far right policies of iowa politicians and normalizing the tiny dicked, serial sex pest's insane behavior.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago

He's only choosing the DmR because Selzer is one of the most famous pollsters with one of the most accurate track records in the history of political prediction- and very widely regarded as such. He needs to make an example out of any resistance there might be to his upcoming reign, as well as use this as proof that the previous election was "manipulated" as justification for future election """reforms""".

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago (5 children)

I do hate Trump, but and bear with me here but maybe there’s actually some good that can come out of that. Maybe we’ll get more accurate polls. Maybe we’ll get a better understanding where people are actually at.

One can only hope.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This isn't about polling, it's extortion, he's trying to get money. He's going to keep doing this for the money

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You know that. I know that.

It's called a small silver lining.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Jesus Christ man, you want to throw out the first amendment over a bad poll? Seriously?

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A little reading and comprehension goes a long way.

Where did I say I want to throw anything out? Where did I say I like this lawsuit? Where did I even imply that I want this lawsuit to continue?

The only thing I said was maybe something good can come of it. It's called a thin silver lining.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Headline: Trump sues pollster

You: This could be good, maybe we'll get better polls.

What did I miss?

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Because you didn't state what I said.

What I clearly said is MAYBE there MIGHT be SOME good.

Specifically what I said was "maybe there's actually some good that can come from this " which is a massive difference then saying "this could be good".

99.9% of it is bad, but that means that .1% of it might end up with some good. Not sure how any of that is confusing.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

What?? How the hell is that related?

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The dipshit in orange is suing about a poll that (he claims) wasn't accurate.

How is having more accurate polls not related?

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

So then explain how that leads to more accurate polls.

[–] ofcourse@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

This lawsuit is strong arming for sure but you have a valid point.

As much as everything that Trump does sucks, if he ends up putting stricter regulations on news media against reporting unfounded claims, it’s going to be good in the long term. I can’t wait for the day that Fox News finds itself needing to report facts.

The balancing act will be accurate reporting vs the fear of reporting anything negative against a public figure. The latter will be a death blow to democracy.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

if he ends up putting stricter regulations on news media against reporting unfounded claims, it’s going to be good in the long term.

🤦‍♂️

[–] andrewta@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A face palm. How is it bad to tell media to report facts and not spread misinformation like they did to support Trump during his initial election? There were people literally asking the government to do something to stop the spread of misinformation (it was people on the left asking for that).

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 months ago

Who determines what is "true"? And keep in mind Trump will be assuming office shortly.