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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

My dogg ur gonna make me upvote this twice

Which is twice what homie got

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

2x0 is still 0, bro woulda got more than twice what homie got.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 months ago (5 children)

For the amount of references to people defending CEOS and billionaires, I never actually see any unless I walk by a TV blaring Fox News.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Come to Germany. We had a wealth tax until 1996 and whenever it's revival is publicly discussed you can see that the majority is against it even when the majority of our people would never have to pay it and would profit from it. It's mind boggling that the people are still willing to defend our current "don't tax the rich" policy...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah the whole AfD situation is extremely worrying to me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It's not even the AfD. Most of the politic parties don't or at least didn't want to touch wealth tax.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's silly, a shocking amount of media sources are in cover their ass mode not just fox. LinkedIn has posts. Twitter has posts. Even SNL, shockingly, is a little bit "can we not be cheering a killer on air?"

So..I call bs, this is everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Cheering for a Killer and defending a CEO are not the only two stances. You can do neither.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago (8 children)

the CEO who killed millions via denying healthcare was the true working class hero

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Nobody I work with is on the same page as me about this subject, but they also don't know enough about it to feel comfortable disagreeing with me. I think a lot of people relate more to a CEO than Luigi for the simple fact that they think or feel that it's more likely for them to be in the CEOs position than a shooter. As delusional as that is, it's a factor that has always put the working class against themselves.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You can see some in this very thread

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

As a photographer I'm wondering why would billionaires give autofocus about poor people...

/s obviously

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Opposing capital punishment without a trial != defending millionaires.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Someone died. Even if that's a billionaire from health insurance, someone dying is usually not a good thing. What is good about this situation is how it has put class consciousness in the public eye in a way that it wasn't before.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm glad he's dead and I know he's burning in hell.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

As someone who's also glad, the falsehood that we get what we deserve after we die is a very harmful one.

Justice doesn't come naturally or in some fairy tale afterlife. Justice came to Brian because someone else saw to it that it did.

The world would be a better place if people weren't deluded into believing the universe or some imagined deity will make things fair. It's a very pretty lie, but it has equally ugly consequences.

If we want a just world, we need to make one. It won't be handled off screen for us. This life is all we get.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I agree about the gained consciousness, that's a good thing. On the other hand, being I'm firmly against death sentence (even with a trial), what I don't agree with is homicide. That's not justice. It's just vengeance. And it's a very dangerous slippery slope.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago

Homicide is wrong and it can be a slippery slope.

However, the system for dealing with monopolies/oligopolies is broken. Regulatory capture has occurred. The rich shifted taxes to the poor. And a Fortune 8 company continues to kill thousands of Americans and make massive profits from doing so.

The Paradox of Intolerance tells us that letting this continue will only result in the deaths of thousands more Americans. Tolerating this behavior results in more 1000x more American deaths and inspires others to profit off the pain, misery, and death of our fellow citizens.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (4 children)

So how do you suggest to solve the situation when there are a lot of people who should be in jail or worse but they are rich so the government justice system does not work for them? In the lifetime of one person who's life was destroyed by the said evil person.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Killing them, of course. /s

Go head, buy a rifle and start your vengeance. Don't wait for others to do it, if you're so brave (spoiler: you're not and you're just talking out of your ass).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Don't forget you wouldn't even be privileged to have this conversation with the billionaires who conspire to rob and then kill us every single day. The coward talking out of their ass is the one who looks at a broken power structure and can only muster a meek, "not like this." Save your speeches for those doing the real killing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, man, whatever. This conversation is not interesting anymore.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (7 children)

People like you are dangerous to those of us actually trying to make a positive change. You’d sell out your fellow man to the elites if push came to shove and we can sense that cowardice in you. Don’t expect us to be stoked about traitors. If you don’t want to help then at least get out of the fucking way.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, that guy looks like his hands are probably grimey. I wouldn't want to touch them either.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Also, maybe the players are tired and grumpy after the match.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The fans are why they make millions dribbling a ball though. A simple high five is not a lot to ask.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

True. But athletes are still people and they are allowed to be themselves.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (7 children)

This is not about defending billionaires, this is about condemning murder as a matter of principle!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Then why murder than happened on same day had no manhunt?

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The principle being complete subservience to a group of wall street military and prison industry profiteers who have used their wealth to hijack our social institutions, our representatives and transformed the vast majority of news media in our country into propaganda dissemination outlets While also enforcing a system that legislates and bureaucratically incentivizes the deaths of poor and working class people including American citizens for profit while denying the reality that this is called social murder and is murder none the less. A principle completely lacking in principle. Id love to know what you consider to be moral with principles such as those.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Username fucking checks out.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I think they way most people see it is that anyone in their right mind has a point where murder is okay. WWII, for example - the vast majority of people understand it was okay to kill Nazis. The context was that the world had no choice but to go to war with them. It was either kill or be killed.

We're in the same situation here in the United States. Our political system is broken. Politicians are bought and sold by the 1%, and they will continue to kill us en masse no matter how many peaceful protests we join and whoever we vote for.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Not only is it that murder is ok for everyone at a certain point but its that we are conditioned to praise retributive violence and killing so long as the ones being beaten maimed and or killed are marginalized people whom the ultra wealthy see as sub human and their casualty benefit their end goals. Like all the non violent labor and civil rights protestors who have ended up bludgeoned by batons and less than lethal munitions, or targeted by extra judicial unconstitutional surveillance and suppression tactics such as yale used against pro Palestinian demonstrators over the last year. There are too many examples of this double standard to go over without writing a book as thick as the king james Bible.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Murder is an unjustified killing. Killing somebody who is socially murdering people is a form of self defence and is thus not murder. Don’t try and change my mind. Not condoning any action though and I would prefer if the CEO got a jail sentence instead (but that would never happen).

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Closing bell at the guard rail factory.

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