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“No, he’s not going to be president, that I can tell you,” Trump said. “And I’m safe. You know why he can’t be? He wasn’t born in this country.”

As you know a true leader has to keep saying they're the real leader

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[–] [email protected] 91 points 4 months ago (1 children)

'He's not going to be president'

Too late, Trump has been purchased.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He had to say he's "safe"? Lol wat

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Sounds like donvict is worried.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like something a secure man says.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Something something not a true king.

  • Tywin Lannister
[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I really want to see a press conference were a journalist asks if he has cleared that with Elon. Or just ask him what Elon's opinion is on some random thing.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And you'll never see it because journalists care way more about access to a politician than they do about truth. Doing that would just result in never being able to ask Trump a question again, and they know it, and act accordingly to their class.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago

you've heard of RINO and DINO, now meet the diaper-wearing, spray painted PINO.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Bitch, he co-owns your stupid ass.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Kind of, right? No doubt Elon is a career criminal, just not charged. Yet. The greedy folk occasionally take their own down, too. If Elon isn't paranoid about that, he should be.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That's the point right? Elon doesn't need to be or want to be president, he just needs to call one up and say "bitch, change this dumbass law or I pull the plug on your media and financing" and then w/e president he just called does the thing.

Why do the work and be public when you can brainfart an order at 7:30pm after dinner and 2 weeks later some gears roll in favor of your cocaine dream.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

“bitch, change this dumbass law or I pull the plug on your media and financing” and then w/e president he just called does the thing.

So he calls Putin and says his PAC needs another round of funding?

[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trump’s also disqualified from the office by the Constitution. The Supreme Court allowed it. They can allow Elon too.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Not exactly the same comparison. This would be far more blatant capture for the Supreme Court. The natural born citizen requirement is much more cut and dry. There were still some non-partisan legal people who genuinely thought Trump shouldn't be disqualified (though many many disagreed with them)

The Supreme Court does pass on insane legal ideas sometimes even if they allow plenty of horrible stuff too. Like in 2023 in Moore v. Harper, they ruled 6-3 against the Independent state legislature theory. Though on the flip side their presidential immunity ruling was indeed insane

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Not exactly the same, no; the point being that the court can pull the rug from under Trump who thinks the rules that don’t apply to him still somehow apply to Musk.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago

the fact that he addressed this shows the framing is getting to him so people need to keep it up

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

Elon is to tRump like the Emperor was to Vader.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Our media is so stupid. The world's richest man just bought the whole federal government and the MSM reaction is "Ooh, maybe there's gonna be drama!"

Sane-washing was the wrong word for what the media does with Trump. It's more like reality-TV-washing. It makes everything he does seem like a TV show that's not real, and they never talk to or about the real people who are harmed by poorly run government. When was the last time the MSM talked to or about the struggles of a homeless person, someone living in the ghetto, or an immigrant trapped in a broken system? But they talk to and about Elon Musk every fucking day. They've spoken more to Elon Musk about immigration than to all (other) immigrants combined.

The media isn't right-wing or left-wing, it's entertainment-wing. It's just a reality TV soap opera focused on characters and personalities, not informing people. We should stop pretending it's a source of information, the MSM is a source of entertainment.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

This is why not everything should be profit-driven.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It’s been kinda obvious from the beginning that Elon Musk is Donald Trump’s Grand Vizier.

And we all know how THOSE stories go.

But who’s the poor street urchin inadvertently roped into the vizier’s evil schemes?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

An evil grand vizier whispering into the ear of the already-evil king.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

The timer is running on Elon's time on the good list. His ass is going on Trump's naughty list eventually.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

LOL, it's working. Donvict is getting quite annoyed at doge dipshit stealing the spotlight....

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago

President Musk must be happy with his plaything :3

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

If Musk becomes Speaker of the House ... couldn't he ? Speaker Johnson offered him the job. The speaker doesn't need to be a congress member.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/mike-johnson-asked-elon-musk-if-he-wants-to-be-speaker-of-the-house/ar-AA1whA9C

And the speaker is in line to be president if Trump and Vance "happen" to die.

The U.S. Constitution and the Presidential Succession Act of 1947 outline the presidential order of succession. The line of succession of cabinet officers is in the order of their agencies’ creation.

  1. Vice President
  2. Speaker of the House

I mean Trump is obsessed with ignoring the Constitution to stay president until he dies. Why wouldn't that be used against him by Musk ?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Not constitutionally no. He doesn't meet the requirement to be president which requires you to be born as a US citizen

Edit: also it seems like Johnson was moreso making a jab at musk in his comments about the difficulty of the job - rather than actually making him a genuine offer

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I am aware of the born a US citizen requirement. Trump is also trying to get rid of naturalized citizenship.

But these guys are not big on rule following.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Trump is also trying to get rid of naturalized citizenship.

No, he's trying to get rid of birthright citizenship.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

The SC could just make a bullshit ruling that this only applies fo4 being elected president, rather than becoming president through succession.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

If musk becomes speaker, Trump and Vance should start to worry.

Trump will be 25a'd out of there very fast. Just you wait

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Succession only applies to people eligible to hold the office. So him being Speaker would be irrelevant. He'd just be skipped.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

...but he's the superior businessman?

Thats how america works Mr trump. This was your idea.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

How much money did President Musk pay Vice President Trunp to cover for him like that?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Trumps presidency and "The Elon giveth, and the Elon taketh away" approach.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ted Cruz was born in Canada and clearly ran for United States President in 2016. I remember.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (4 children)

But notably Cruz was born to US citizens, therefore he was a citizen. Musk's parents were not US citizens so therefore Musk is not a natural born citizen. Cruz can run, musk can not

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Musk got a bill shut down in congress and replaced with one he liked in under a day, I'm not so sure if amending the constitution to allow him to be elected is beyond his reach at this point. it would probably require buying a few democrats also but I bet fetterman and a few others would be happy to join the winning team for the right price.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Amending the constitutional is a much higher bar than people think it is. You'd need way more than just a fetterman here or there. Keep in mind still had 38 republicans vote against his and Trump's second version of the bill

It requires 2/3 of congress, and 3/4 of state legislatures

Assuming he loses zero republicans, this you would need:

67 in the senate meaning you'd need 14 dem senators

290 in the house of representatives meaning you need 70 dem reps

And in state legislatures, he'd need 38 of them to ratify. Republicans only have a trifecta in 23 (it’s unclear if governors can veto ratification or not), they have both state legislatures in 28, and it’s split in Alaska, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and we'll see about Minnesota with some legal challenges.

If we assume no governor vetos nor any republicans going against it, that's 28. Then let's imagine in those split states you convince them all, that's 33. Keep in mind each state has its own list of people you'd need to convince, not just one person here

Then in the other 5 you'd have to be talking about states with dem trifectas where it's hardly going to be politically popular to bend to Musk

You would need on the order of at minimum of 100+ dems in congress and state legislatures to pull that off assuming governors don't veto / ruled that they aren't able to. And also assuming that all republicans go for it at all levels of government, and that dems in other states with republican legislatures don't use procedural tactics to slow down ratification, etc.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago

That is correct, but let us not also forget the fact of Cruz's birth when he now supports Trump, a major figurehead of the birther movement against Obama and the absolute irony of that. This movement claimed that Obama was not eligible to be President because they falsely claimed he was born in Kenya. Not only was he born in Hawaii, not Kenya, but his mother is and has always been a US Citizen, making him a naturally born citizen. So the his place of birth doesn't matter, just as it doesn't matter that Cruz actually WAS born abroad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Also, they are getting rid of birthright citizenship, right?

Fuck off Ted back to Cuba.

(Not gonna happen ^^^right ^^^away, but it would be interesting)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Ted’s dad was born in Cuba

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter as long as he was a US citizen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

He was born a blob fish though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

10,000 stinkbugs and cockroaches in a skin suit. Get it right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Ted Cruz's dad was Oogey Boogey?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Heard from a credible source he also killed JFK!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

For the first time in my life, i agree with Trump; Musk isn't "going to be the president." Musk IS the president.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we could amend the constitution to allow all citizens the same exact rights including being able to become president?

That would be kind of cool.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)